Angles with the 4-4

Oline15
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Angles with the 4-4 Sept 23, 2008 7:49:48 GMT

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Post by Oline15 on Sept 23, 2008 7:49:48 GMT

In the 4-4 scheme, rather than just sitting back and playing a 3 tech and a 1 tech, how do you feel about lining both DT's in 2 techs along with the Ends also head up and slanting all 4 of them? Or, pinching them as well? I am a believer in moving the defense on the snap of the ball to create confusion and to take away angle blocking. Any advice on this would be helpful. Thanks

Oline15

TIGER ONE
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Angles with the 4-4 Sept 23, 2008 8:38:23 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 23, 2008 8:38:23 GMT

OLINE15,

GO FOR IT, I DO IT ALL THE TIME. I HAVE RUN THE 4-2-5 FOR OVER 20 YEARS WHICH IS THE SAME THING AS THE 4-4 BASICALLY. WE RUN A SLANT GAP CALLED "42 PURPLE" AND ANOTHER WE CALL "EASTON SPECIAL" DESIGNED TO STOP OFF TACKLE BLEEDING. IN BOTH WE MOVE THE LINE TECHNIQUES AROUND IN THE PSL, I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN STEMMING MUCH ON THE HS LEVEL AS THE KIDS WOULD END UP OUT OF POSIITON A LOT OF THE TIME. THE LAST 12 YEARS OF MY CAREER AT THE PROFESSIONAL MINMOR LEAGUE LEVEL, WE WOULD STEM TO THEM ALOT! I THINK YOU ARE DOING IT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

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pjlowry61
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Angles with the 4-4 Sept 26, 2008 6:26:04 GMT

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Post by pjlowry61 on Sept 26, 2008 6:26:04 GMT

Coach Easton,

Would be so kind as to provide some detail on the 42 purple and the Easton Special. Next week we are playing a time that is physically better than us and likes to pound the ball off tackle. I am planning on loading up the box and running slants and stunts to try and compensate. Would be very interested in what you have done to stop the off tackle running game.

Paul Lowry

Caveman Senior Member Posts: 258	Angles with the 4-4 Sept 29, 2008 9:27:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Caveman on Sept 29, 2008 9:27:39 GMT Suggestion (if you are not playing us that is): Run robber coverage behind your 4-4 to get FS involved stopping off-tackle.
	Scott Orndoff Varsity Assistant Williamsville East High School Williamsville, NY

Oneback Senior Member EMAIL: billmountjoy@yahoo.com Posts: 6,222	Angles with the 4-4 Sept 29, 2008 11:32:58 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Oneback on Sept 29, 2008 11:32:58 GMT ALSO - NEED a 7 technique who can dominate the TE!!!!!!!
	Bill Mountjoy

TIGER ONE
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Angles with the 4-4 Sept 29, 2008 12:55:06 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 29, 2008 12:55:06 GMT

pjlowery,

Here are diagrams of both.

DIAGRAM ONE- 42 PURPLE (SLANT GAP) BS 4 TECH SLANTS TO BS B GAP BS 3 TECH SLANTS TO BS A GAP FRONT SIDE 3 SLANTS TO C
5 SLANTS TO D GAP WHILE TB DRIVES STRAIGHT ACROSS LOS
FS READS BALL AND ROLLS DOWN IN CASE OF ESCAPE
SLB LOCATES BALL AND SCRAPES TO CORRECT GAP
MLB ROTATES TO MIDDLE

..........................................................FS.......................................................................................

...............................TB................... LB.LB.....................................................................................
...C..............................................4...3...........3....5...TB.....................................................................
X...............................................T...G...C...G...T...Y.........................................C.................................
..........................................................QB...........................................................Z..............................

.........................................................FB............................................................................................
........................................................ RB...........................................................................................

EASTON SPECIAL the same EXCEPT STRONG TB MOVES INSIDE OF 5 WE HAVE KICKED TO A 9

J.C. EASTON HEAD COACH GA TIGERS FOOTBALL PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE

TIGER ONE Senior Member Posts: 6,423	Angles with the 4-4 Sept 30, 2008 8:54:07 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 30, 2008 8:54:07 GMT CORRECTION: THE BACKSIDE 3 TECH SHIFTED IN THE DIAGRAM. HE SHOULD BE IN A TRUE 3. Coah Easton-TIGER ONE
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TIGER ONE Senior Member Posts: 6,423	Angles with the 4-4 Sept 30, 2008 8:55:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 30, 2008 8:55:37 GMT AS WELL AS THE BACKSIDE 4 SHOULD BE IN A TRUE 4. Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
	J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE

CoachFord79
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Angles with the 4-4 Apr 8, 2009 8:08:11 GMT

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Post by CoachFord79 on Apr 8, 2009 8:08:11 GMT

i run what i call the "22 front" as my base.........Dt's in 2-tech.......SDE in 6-tech.......WDE in 5-tech.........the 6-tech always slant hard down into the c-gap reading the hip of the OT.........the DT's either slant weak/strong, or pinch(a-gap), or fan (b-gap).........this front has worked best for me when i have had the smaller quicker DL.........i prefer the typical 31 front when i have a true 1-tech and a true 3-tech

allisojh
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Angles with the 4-4 Apr 8, 2009 20:43:26 GMT

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Post by allisojh on Apr 8, 2009 20:43:26 GMT

I love to use it as a 3rd quarter change up. or just at the end of the 2nd half.

We call it 22 Stack, LB stacks the Dguards and we let the Guard/LB combo talk presnap to decide where the guard would shoot and the backer would fill.

Example: DGuard lines up head up OGuard with backer stacking. At the snap the guard shoots A gap and the backer fills B gap but its not a blitz.

Kids like it too as they feel they are part of the scheming and they like to set up the OG too.

Really messes them up when we are in a 31 all half then they go in, make adjustments then we throw that at them. I also like doing right before the end of half hoping we make some plays and they then have to go into half spend all the time working out their scheme.

I got the idea from my boss. He loves to line up in some funky formation and run some plays unlike what we usually do in hopes they decide to spend the entire half workig on stopping it. We then go out for the 2nd half and go right back to our regular offense.

If anyting it gives them one more thing to talk about. A 20 minute half goes quick!!! and that could be the edge you need.

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Post by Oline15 on Sept 23, 2008 7:49:48 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 23, 2008 8:38:23 GMT

Post by pjlowry61 on Sept 26, 2008 6:26:04 GMT

Post by Caveman on Sept 29, 2008 9:27:39 GMT

Post by Oneback on Sept 29, 2008 11:32:58 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 29, 2008 12:55:06 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 30, 2008 8:54:07 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 30, 2008 8:55:37 GMT

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