Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Honestly, one of the simplest ways of getting it done is stated very well by coach Mountjoy in his post on Bear Bryant's Common Sense Rule. In general, I always tell my players on in a 44--DL needs to take care of the dive. If the dive back is coming at your gap, obliterate him. Next man tries to make the QB a smear on the field, and the pitch is taken by LB's--in the G the Free should be running the lane hard as well.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
I totally agree with that concept. In a Cover 3 or Robber scheme, Strong side... I think the DL should take the Dive b-c gaps, 10 backer takes the Strong A, 30 backer takes the QB, and the OLB takes the pitch. Weak side, 1 tech takes A, 10 backer takes B, Whip takes the QB, and OLB takes the Pitch.
I guess what I am getting at is this: In a Cover 3, who has the pitch man in your opinions?
In the 44 that I used to run (we didn't run a robber coverage, just straight C3 or C1) we had our OLB get after the pitch man (assuming OS veer), DE had dive, and ILB had to scrape to QB (was tough, but can be done if he is quick on his reads).
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
I think its too tough on the corner to have to make the double read and give up the deep 1/3 then have the QB pull up and throw over his head.
My boss has it in his head that the corners are to play the pitch out of cover 3. OLB feathers the QB so the corner can close the ground. Line and ILB play the Dive, OLB plays the QB, and the corners play the pitch.
What is happening is two things... 1. pitch man get the ball in space with no one on him and ends up with 5-6 yards even with the corner coming out of his 1/3, fighting trough the reciever. or 2. QB or option man pulls up when the corner vacates the zone and the reciever and throws over his head.
I know option responsibilities can be layed out everyway possible and I was looking for what others do.
Like I said before, DL has Dive, ILB scrapes to QB, and OLB has pitch. That is how I see it maybe I am wrong too.
ROBBER gives much better run support from F/S than Cover 3. You change up option responsibilites: The F/S can take pitch, with OLB taking QB (along with a ILB) = this is best if #2 arc releases to block), or the OLB can take pitch, with F/S taking QB (along with a ILB) = this is best if #2 blocks inside..
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GREAT VIDEO that shows much of this is the C.W. Post video (DVD) on DEFENDING THE OPTION.
PS:
From the best defensive coach I ever knew - Paul "Bear" Bryant:
"COMMON SENSE OPTION RULE":
IN EACH DEFENSE A PLAYER IS ASSIGNED A PECIFIC PART OF THE OPTION. THEN ADD TO THEIR RULE
THE WORDS "OR THE FIRST MAN TO SHOW WITH THE BALL". THUS, IF I AM A DEFENSIVE END WHOSE
MAIN RESPONSIBILITY IS QUARTERBACK ON THE OPTION, MY RULE IS "QB, OR THE FIRST MAN THAT
CHALLENGES ME WITH THE BALL". BY DOING THIS SHOULD A BLOCKING SCHEME OR PLAY CAUSE OUR
OPTION COVERAGE TO BREAK DOWN AT A GIVEN POINT, PLAYERS SHOULD BE READY TO MAKE THE
NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS.
PS: There are no "WHAT-IF'S"! This applies to all defenses & all type options!!!
I agree out of a C3 with allisojh, but Corner should be secondary support on this and should not be biting to the line quickly. Out of the Robber, it should not be an issue--corner has deep half.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
I think Cover 3 is horrible if you want your corners to cover the pitch man.
I was just looking for Basic option responsibilities out of Cover 3 not better things to do.
Thanks and I agree with both of you coaches. I wish my boss did.
I ran the Robber schemes, Sky/cloud schemes in college but my boss loves cover 3.
I am in the camp where if I can get guys who are not covered or have guys flying behind him, to get them into the play wheter its the OLB or safety running down hill.
I am also in the camp that believes the OLB has pitch man and the ILB has to get his ass to the QB at D gap to the strong side. OLB has pitch man, ILB has dive at B and Whip has QB on the weak side.
If I am wrong in thinking this, please explain!!!!!!!!!!!! Really... I want to hear the other theories on option responsiblities out of a G3 scheme.
Understand that the veer (option) does not block somebody (first man outside the hole typically). Use your DE & OLB as force players. If you have indecision defensively (offensive game plan) you will get hurt. Let the DE's play the QB aggressively, give him the QB's number, hit him every play. OLB in force contain squeeze pitch. FS in alley support mops up.
The "common sense" option rule is the BEST way IF you have time to teach it. But at the HS level you don't unless you have very good postion coaches. Have a DE or DT flat foot for a second and a good veer QB will leave him hanging. Often times the DE's end up hitting no one.
We run a veer offense & when we play teams with indecision up front we WILL NOT block the 7 or 3 and a LOT of the time they end up spinning in a circle watching their LB's getting blocked.
Run the system your hc wants you to run. Trust me. I was in the same situation this season. My HC's views/schemes were not sound, in my opinon. But he was the HC and was the one paid to make that decision. I tried to put my two cents worth in, and sometimes he took my ideas, sometimes not. We got our tails kicked around all season.
It doesn't matter, frankly, what you do with your assignments. Be on the same page, and teach the techniques needed to allow those players to be as successful as possible. I do think, though that your scheme thoughts are sound. The CB should never be a primary run support man out of a C-3 in my opinion. I also think that it is not a good idea to ever have a ILB as a primary dive responsibility on option, but he has to be able to make good, fast reads. This can be done at the HS level, and yes you need coaches who are compent. But it does not take more time, just quality drills and good use of your individual time during practice.
I have run the veer for several years, and the teams that I hate going against are the teams that keep my tackles from getting to the second level along with a GATA attitude. That is what defense is all about. get these kids reading instantaneously and coming hard downhill to thier responsibility.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
quote: Originally posted by: jrkelly " I also think that it is not a good idea to ever have a ILB as a primary dive responsibility on option, but he has to be able to make good, fast reads.
Coach Kelly,
How do you handle midline (dive option) @ strong A gap without an ILB taking dive responsibility if you have 3 & 1 techs?
On dive option of midline, out of a 44, ps ILB should be after the QB. The first man being attacked is the DT or DE (depending on whether the mesh is inside or outside the G). That man being optioned should hammer the back. QB should then fill the opening to the QB. Backside ILB should be moving to midline and then be secondary persuit after the play flows from there. Strong A gap dive should be my 3 tech. If they are blocking the 3 tech, then there's no read happening, and I don't call it option...It is then a dive, and the ILB should be reading the G kicking out on the DT and should fill as in a dive.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.