Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I was wondering if anyone runs the IV and OV as a double option? It is either dive or keep. No pitch man. If so I would like to hear how you are doing it. I see teams having so much success running the midline as a double instead of a triple, was wondering why the same principle couldnt be used on IV and OV?
we ran it as a double option, but double by reads, not by lack of pitch. Rather than blocking down with the TE (on outside veer) we arc release him to the OLB/SS, basically taking the true pitch read for our QB. Usually we either gave or the QB tucked and ran--we didn't tell him not to pitch--just if open to run, then run. On our outside veer, there was probably a pitch once or twice a game. Inside veer, by definition is pretty much a double option to the TE side because the QB becomes a B-gap runner (over tackle anyhow). Inside veer away from the TE was a true triple for us since we didn't have a man to account for the OLB. We usually countered that issue with running twins and blocking with the slot.
I did try a bit of a gimmick out of an overload with one back as you describe, but it never worked as well on the field as it did on paper.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
Post by Coach Campbell on Dec 8, 2008 17:26:56 GMT
I use the inside veer as a double option into spread formations and I use in place of outside veer the lead option in which I call the load option. Coach CAmpbell
What is your blocking rules on the playside for inside veer, ran as a double option? (TE, T, G) I am toying with this out of a slotback & SE on one side and TE & Flanker on the other side with a FB in the backfield. Thank you so much for your help.
Coach Campbell, I was wondering what you thought of using techniques of the old wedge play for veer...especially on the backside. It basically ends up being pretty similar to zone. I've read thing on coaches teaching wedge techniques across the line for veer. All they do is identify who is going to act like the center in setting the wedge.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
I've not done it like this (or at least put it into those words), but I've read a couple of things on it and talked to some veer coaches on it, and it seems like a simple way of teaching these things. It's one of those things that looks worse on paper than traditional blocking, but the wedge works if it is run right. I'm going to play around with this and see if it simplifies things.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
another great wrinkle is to run the inside veer out of a spread look with the one back as your fullback and use the slot as your pitch man. its a great play to the weakside of 2x2 with a 1 and 5 shade getting up the field to pass rush.
If they do not send two out to cover X znd Z, throw to one of them (e.g. bubble screen). If they bring out someone from the box, run veer as a double weak. If they go corner over, run speed option strong. You can also run four verts from this if are on/near a hash.
Scott Orndoff
Varsity Assistant
Williamsville East High School
Williamsville, NY
I love running veer out of split backs with twins like you have here. In fact, the twins formation was Lou Holtz' base formation when he ran his split-back veer. Most teams do not treat the twins as a strength side.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
Coach is absolutely right Lou Holtz actually wrote two books dealing with the split back veer out of the twins set. The Offensive Side of Lou Holtz and Lou Holtz says The Grass is Greener, are the titiles of his books and both are very well done.