Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I had a hard time last year getting my corners last year to get a "good jam" on recievers when I wanted to disrupt their routes. I am a 4-4 G guy that runs 3 and planning on running man free alot more after talking to Oneback.
This makes sense, TO ME, because of my personal at my level. BUT if we did run some 2 this next year:
-What if we have the OLB's go to corner and jam and play flats. They still have same responsiblity they would in 3, just align wider and get to hit pansies in the mouth.
-The corners drop to deep 1/2's. They are still deep players
-And the F/S, (who is an alley player) line up in the alley to the passing strength. If 2x2 and I want to stay in 2, he makes a MLB go to other seam/alley spot. (dime look)
We rolled and moved people last year, I thought it was simple, but when a kid went down, our backups were deer in the headlights. Plus like I said, we couldnt effectivley jam. I know you can teach it more, but also our corners were young and small and not aggressive.
Let me know, just be gentle.
P.S. Oneback, against double slot the F/S can sit in the middle and roll down with motion, kinda like he does in 1 that we talked about.
I don't think I would move the OLB to the strong side all the way out to the WR--then you are losing numbers game to the strong side in the box. If I were playing you in that coverage, I would run strong off tackle all day--unless you have some very good DT's and DE's that can dominate up front. Then you can basically do anything you like, and you'll probably be ok. The back side backer I think could go out, but again, you lose some edge support. Might be solved by simply shifting the LB's, but then you are simply playing a 43 and you might as well just use a 43 personnel package. I've done this technique out of a 33 stack, but never from a 44 look.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
My F/S will be 4X4 in the place of the Strong OLB that left. He will be playing the same spot. My F/S this year is basically a olb, and most likely will be a starter at olb last year. depends if I have someone step up in camp. Now this will only be versus passing situations, IF I need to jam him at the line of scrimmage. But dont think of it that way, is this sound?
I think it's ok, if you can get after the QB. You are losing your 3rd level by bringing your FS away from center field. I think it can be sound, but it is a bit of a high-risk, high-reward approach.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
We have played cover 2 from our 4-4 exactly the way you described it and have had good success. Sometimes by game plan it is a mix up and sometimes it will be our primary coverage for the game. Also, it is easy to align in 2 and run into 3 at the snap as a disguise.
Vs. a Pro Set FS can stay in Robber positon and play exactly the same as in 3. If a slot set then he moves to the alley as you said and plays what we call alley tech.
To me this personnel grouping makes sense. Outside Backers are force players in 2 and 3. Corners are cover players in 2 and 3. Rather than asking them to be both force and cover.
You still end up with a 42 Cover 2. You just switched how your kids align in Cover 2 because of skills your kids have and the matchups being presented. I call it good coaching!
The only problem you will have is what do you do if a starter goes down? Do you teach your "personalized" Cover 2 alignment to all of the kids from day one or teach the "Base" dCover 2 alignments to everyone BUT make your alilgnment changes with your starters and if someone gets hurt you go back to base.
I call what you are thinking and doing good coaching. Getting your desired matchups. I love it and think you got it. You just need to figure out how you want to teach it. A new alignment taught to all of the kids from day one or is this a "persnalized" alignment for certain starters.
I see nothing wrong with it and think you have it. We don't have 110 kids that all go one way, at least I don't. I play 6-7 D-back type kids on defense all the time. The position may say OLB but he is a DB. The position may say Weak side end but he is still a DB. It makes it real easy to go into different coverages because I really don't worry about a "Corner" playing deep and also jam in Cover 2, or a "OLB" being to drop back to deep half, or covering a #2 receiver. They are all D-backs so I can tell "Joey" to drop to half and tell "Timmy" to jam #1, even though the All-Star Cover 2 manual says the corners roll up. Do what works for your kids.
Its all about the Jimmy's and Joe's and the matchups and you have it nailed!!
What I like about Cover 1 (in our 4-2-5) - other than the fact it is the best coverage for the 3 level Vertical Stretch - (AKA: FLOOD) that is so popular:
1. In BASE Cover 1 - "Will" Backer can free up to do a MULTITUDE of things (blitz off edge; come to middle for shallow crosses; double on X with Corner; ETC.)
2. F/S can play 20 yds deep & overlap on passes down both boundaries (giving the coverage deep help as the 2 Safeties do in Cover 2). Particularly good to give deep help to both sides in Corners are in "Press/Man".
3. The F/S can play like a "ROBBER" out of Cover 1 without changing anyone else's assignments.
4. F/S can double on their BEST receiver.
5. You can play "OFF-MAN", or, "PRESS/MAN" from it.
6. F/S (normally a physical hitter & sure tackler) can come down in the "box" as a LBer on running downs (or vs. running teams). We like to do this on the BACKSIDE vs. 3x1 teams because we slide the front to a 4-3, & this keeps us from being hurt backside on certain runs. When we do this - we like to bring "Will" like a bat out of hell of the nub side edge (a la Lawrence Taylor). This tears up a LOT of offense!
7. Can use various 5 to 6 man blitz combinations.
8. Most "Bear 46" variations blend best with Cover 1.
There are many other things, but these are of primary importance! IF there are ANY questions - feel free to PHONE me at 804-378-0116 (from 6 PM to 10 PM/EDT).
I believe Oneback is correct and I have taken his advice. By the end of last season we were playing very little cover 2 but during the course of the season we had it in and used it as a change up and a way to take away the quick out as well as disguising cover 3. A couple of games we played primarily Cover 3 but aligned in 2 most of the time.
I like all of Coach Mountjoy's ideas and we have gone more to the tight man and moving in and out and disguising 1 and 3. We will start next season with that philosophy playing our 4 and 5 man fronts with 1 and 3 behind it. Instead of rolled up 2, I am looking at Tampa 2 with the flat players(our Outside Backers) aligning at 7 with inside leverage. Use my FS to roll down to a MLB spot and cover deep middle. I have a couple of visits planned to learn more about the details but I believe I have the basic concept of the coverage. What I really like about it is the alignment of the Outside Backers should bring them quicker to the run and being able to disguise 1 and 3 should be pretty easy. Appears to match up great vs. Option, Spread Offense and an obvious 3rd and Long passing situation.
The other discussion point about players getting hurt and not having a guy trained to me is irrelevant to the coverage you are playing. We do not just train the starters we train at least 2 deep. Giving close to equal reps to 1's and 2's and also throw a few reps to a 3. By the time a guy is a Senior he might be able to play 2 or 3 spots and then move him around and bring in the next best guy. It's the Coach's responsibility to have somebody ready that has a clue. I have always been of the philosophy that you put in the trained backup instead of doing a mass of juggling, often times you are pleasantly surprised.
Robber/Cover 1 to everyone. Robber to 2 backs, Cover 1 to all Ace backs unless they are Wing-t or Navy Flex wehre tehy have fade, jump, Jet motion where we roll into Robber with the motions.
Originally posted by: allisojh Thats what I have been saying all along.
Robber/Cover 1 to everyone. Robber to 2 backs, Cover 1 to all Ace backs unless they are Wing-t or Navy Flex wehre tehy have fade, jump, Jet motion where we roll into Robber with the motions.
Go into the 2 shell look as a change up.
That is all that I meant. A changeup if I need it, we will face a team or two that can burn on the fly, so it would be good to put a kid out there to jam. For more than anything to just frustrate the kids everyonce in a while. I can put it in, in summer 7-on-7 in a few minutes and rep it some every week. Besides my philosophy is pressure, (Not necessarily blitzing) putting pressure on the opponents somehow everyweek. Getting in there head, getting them frustrated, pissing them off, etc....
Our kids look for ways to mess with the other team, they have really bought into it. We have a call that our 2 DT's came up with last year that we run maybe once or twice a game. During the cadence they get shoulder to shoulder on the center, on the snap they try to put the center on his back onto the QB. This is great vs spread, gun. AND they still have A gap which is their gap....