Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Just wondering if you guys call deep motions in the huddle for triple option plays or rocket toss, or do your players just remember they need to motion on those plays. We don't motion that often, so motions then add to our play call which can get to be 10+ words at a time.
Wow! That is a long play! However, if they can remember 10 words, 11 should not be that big of a deal...When we ran the double wing option, we didn't call motion, but we ran motion on 75% + of our plays with motion. In our splitback veer schemes, we did tag motion because we didn't run motion all that often. I guess, in a nutshell, that is my two cents on the subject...if it is a staple of your offense, motion should be implied. But if you need to remind your players, tag it. They both work well.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
We don't normally call the motion for our pitchbacks, and usually don't for others who go in motion. They know where they have to be to make the play, so the formation tells them when to use motion. For example, if our H-back (who is going to get the pitch) is lined up opposite the play, he knows he needs to go in deep motion. If the formation has him towards the play, he knows he is either backing up or going in "twirl" motion--and we've told them which of those we're using before we go out.
We will call the motions early in preseason practice until it becomes second nature to them.
Ha this is a horrible question but lets say you don't tag a motion and your quarterback forgets all about it and never sends him? It's sad but it has happened a few times, hense I don't like to motion much.
An example of a long play call would be - Rice Falcon Right Idaho Deep 7 Chief Blackhawk 8 Dos.
Rice - unbalanced
Falcon Right - Formation
Idaho - Line Splits (tight A Gap)
Deep- Motion and sometimes we have may need to say Deep with a direction
7 Chief- Play and Line blocking scheme
Blackhawk- Back blocking scheme and creates the pitch man
8- Direction
Dos- On Two
Now sometimes we are considering making our falcon right automatic unbalanced.
There are games when we just tell the lineman to use Idaho splits against a certain defense.
I'm looking at how to get rid of motions especially out of different formations. Our base is actually double tight bone and if we can just sit in that and pound everyone we will and it's a nice lovely night. It's 7 Chief 8 all night. No formations, no tags, no motions.
Trust me we don't like having to use all these, the kids do learn them but it is difficult getting the plays in so we try to keep things as simple as possible but for us to maintain all the weapons we may need to be successful.
That is a mouthfull! Do the kids do better with picking things up on that system, or do they do better with called plays? For instance, in my current terminology, I might call something like Twins Right Z Over 36 power. Basically a simple off tackle power play with the slot receiver coming across in motion. For this the line needs to know the difference in blocking scheme between a simple iso call versus blast versus power. They tend to do fine, but a man has forgotten to pull more than once. I too have looked at the possibility of tagging blocking schemes for the linemen and nixing the play names. This same play might then be Twins Right, Z Over, Gold, 35. A simple iso would be the same only it would be "...Blue, 35". My running plays are not too complicated in either system, but passing plays in the "newer system" get a bit more complicated. Instead of a play like Pro right 44 veer pass, it might be Pro right, red 44, 897, 3-swing. Rather than being overly word-heavy it gets number heavy. I like to be able to break everything down for myself, but, as you said, can I count on plays getting in to the huddle correctly, etc? When it is all said and done, I think simpler is always better when working with high school students who have limited football knowledge and limited time for practice, etc.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
Wow, ours are usually something like hornet right give right. Or bunch right midline left. We have about 4 blocking schemes, inside zone, outside zone, trap, and counter and we just teach the plays to the OL as whatever scheme they fall into. As far as motion we give our backs letter and would just tag b-orbit or z across. We used to have about 20 different schemes when we were a pro I team, we had iso and lead and blast and they were all similiar plays that the only difference was which backer we lead blocked. We had tags that we added and different situations for calls at the line etc. We have since dumbed it down and we have had more success with less talented players.
Yea if we stay basic with line splits, and formation our play call is short and sweet. One reason we use alot of tags is because in certain formations we can double team two guys and read another which means we have 1 one on one block. We can choose who that one on one block is going to be depending on match ups. Navy basically runs the same play down at the goalline but they run it more like a quarterback follow. Still a beautiful play.