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Ltts say I want to send all my LBs and (I run a 3-4), leaving the 4 dbacks for coverage. Aside from going man and overplaying hot receivers, what type of coverage (combo coverages or what have you) can you do behind that?
I am toying with some blitzes that I want to send 7 (not using any apy techniques on backs in the back field because I use that already).
Thoughts?
Coach D
Philly suburb HS
"The only players I have hurt with my words are ones who have an inflated opinion on their ability" - Bill Parcells
- 3 if they are in a 2 back set with the SS coming down in the alley and the FS rotating back to deep 1/3 (or vice-versa if they throw to the single receiver side)
Scott Orndoff
Varsity Assistant
Williamsville East High School
Williamsville, NY
I am little confused. Are you saying to play cover 3 and cover 4 using only the remaining 4 players? That is interesting if you are, very cool. Would you mind sharing what zones in the scheme the remaining 4 dbacks cover?
Coach D
Philly suburb HS
"The only players I have hurt with my words are ones who have an inflated opinion on their ability" - Bill Parcells
I am not a risk taker as one bad play can spoil what would otherwise be a great game. Mind you I am not ultra conservative either. AS DC I truly believe its my game to win, the offense just helps a little. Therefore I dont gamble "All In" unless there are a few factors present.
We are flat and need a spark.
We're up by 20 points and I can take more risks.
We're down by 8 or fewer with less than 4 minutes left in the game.
I've seen too many times where a Middle Screen or Swing Pass sucks the life out of a Defense. Especially late in a game where a defensive stand is necessary. Personally, I think the Zone Blitz is a great way to gamble and still cover your butt to some extent.
Its not about how much YOU know about the game, its about how much you share that knowledge with the people around you.
We are under talented and usually out manned. And dont worry, All of my 7 man blitzes that I have come up with have 6 man (with true man coverage) and 5 man (zone blitz) relatives. But, in looking at out game film last year and analyzing, we were only at a 17% success rate when we zone blitzed (which is all we had in last year). So, I need to apply more pressure.
True, screen and draw are a big thing to consider. But, I wont only have 7 man pressures in there, we will have 5 and 6 man packages as well. And fortunately, we dont face a lot of effective screen teams. Draw, on the other hand, is a big factor. But hey, that why they call it gambling. Big risk, big reward.
Thanks again for the input, as I am more on the conservative side as well.
Coach D
Philly suburb HS
"The only players I have hurt with my words are ones who have an inflated opinion on their ability" - Bill Parcells
If are sending one more than they can block, all must be instucted to cover/tackle a RB that shows in their gap. As you have some rushing all gaps, draw is no problem. You may be ok on screen too, but not necessarily.
Playing cover 4 behind a blitz means you give up all underneath zones, if they complete the ball, make the tackle and get your punt return team on (that is why third and medium to long only).
If is cover 3 with 7 going, you rotate one player down to go for the pick/run support (usually a safety for us but could be a CB):
e.g. Bring down $ for alley fill on run or to rob any out-breaking route by Y or in-breaking route by Z. FS has deep middle 1/3, CBs have outside deep 1/3s. Obviously, you are giving away short stuff to the opposite side but you only need to guess right once in a while to get a big play. This is risky vs a one-back set because of 4 verts, but remember, you are bringing one more than they can block (if they send four out to run the verts and you rush 7) so you might get away with it.
Scott Orndoff
Varsity Assistant
Williamsville East High School
Williamsville, NY
Honestly I sit here biting my tongue as I dont know you or the circumstances your in. It is so easy to Arm Chair QB everything without walking a mile in your shoes. My first three teams were essentially a kin to 8th graders playing against a Varsity team. Defensive I ran a 4-3 the first year and did not have the players to do that with. Second year went to a 4-4 Split with better results but still lacked players in key spots, 3rd year switched to a 50 front and was able to handle most teams fairly well with 3 Good LB and A Great NT. Trust me I blitzed a ton with those first two teams because we weren't able to get any pressure on the backfield. I learned very quickly that for every successful blitz there was four or five that missed and cost me points. I was consistently out sized, over matched, and under experienced. The answer for me defensively was to be conventionally unconventional. Gaps, shifts, stunts, slants, anything to keep my undersized kids from being directly over an opponent. Casey Stengel once said to the object of hitting is to hit the ball where they aint! Same thing holds true for an undersized defense. Dont be where the offense thinks you will be.
Were I in your situation I would look seriously at the flex defense, a 3-3 stack, or a 3-5-3 anything that involves movement in different directions at different times. They are conventional defenses with a twist. Additionally, I wouldn't run anything but zone coverages for the plain and simple fact that it allows all of my defense to face the offense without turning their backs to chase a receiver. Will you give up some yardage? Yes but with everyone facing the backfield they can all play the run while still defending the pass. They dont have to be lock down Corners or worry about jamming or stopping the inside release. What it also means is that if and when I do blitz the misses arent as costly.
Its not about how much YOU know about the game, its about how much you share that knowledge with the people around you.
We are under talented and usually out manned. And dont worry, All of my 7 man blitzes that I have come up with have 6 man (with true man coverage) and 5 man (zone blitz) relatives. But, in looking at out game film last year and analyzing, we were only at a 17% success rate when we zone blitzed (which is all we had in last year). So, I need to apply more pressure.
True, screen and draw are a big thing to consider. But, I wont only have 7 man pressures in there, we will have 5 and 6 man packages as well. And fortunately, we dont face a lot of effective screen teams. Draw, on the other hand, is a big factor. But hey, that why they call it gambling. Big risk, big reward.
Thanks again for the input, as I am more on the conservative side as well.
Is your talent level what has you worried about going Man to Man when blitzing 7 players?
If so, I always think of man to man when blitzing in terms of playing a simple game of tag. If Athlete "A" is a terrific athlete and Athlete "B" is a bad athlete, in what situation do you think Athlete "B" has a chance to tag Athlete "A"? When they are standing 4 yards apart, or when they are standing 10 yards apart?
I've coached Defensive backs for 4 years now, and been a DC for 2 years at a Soccer school, with decent athletes in a very athletic, LARGE School league. I never have great athletes, and we always play against very athletic teams with lots of speed and lots of dynamic players. When I blitz these teams, I put my DBs in man to man with Bump and run on the outside or on TEs, and a four yard cushion with inside leverage on any Slot WR.
If you blitzing 7 players, then you can assume (if the players do their job...) that you are going to get pressure within 1.5 to 2 seconds. By that point, the DBs should still be remotely close to their WR.
We are in a very similiar boat as you as far as talent etc. Last year we went to the Okie Dog Pinch as pretty much our base defense unless someone makes us come out of it by formation. If you are in anything less tahn 3 wide we are sending 7, our 2 ILB and our 2 corners are the only ones we don't send. It has been better for us than any other D we have played and our team has come to believe that if we can stay in the okie dog we can probably stay in the game. We DO NOT have great corners, but we play man to man every play with them and have been better doing that than we have been in zone ever. If we give up a big play it is usually because we just got beat by a better team. the only thing we do that is "special" is our contain rushers are taught if a back comes to you, tackle him or run with him. We figure if a QB can get the ball out fast enough with that much heat in his face he is probably pretty darn good and our DB's should be able to stay with a guy for the 5 yds into his route he gets before the Q has to start running. The only thing that has hurt us has been screens, but those have been more from our ILB wanting to get into the offensive backfield instead of getting into their drops like they are supposed to.
Originally posted by: greenough We are in a very similiar boat as you as far as talent etc. Last year we went to the Okie Dog Pinch as pretty much our base defense unless someone makes us come out of it by formation. If you are in anything less tahn 3 wide we are sending 7, our 2 ILB and our 2 corners are the only ones we don't send. It has been better for us than any other D we have played and our team has come to believe that if we can stay in the okie dog we can probably stay in the game. We DO NOT have great corners, but we play man to man every play with them and have been better doing that than we have been in zone ever. If we give up a big play it is usually because we just got beat by a better team. the only thing we do that is "special" is our contain rushers are taught if a back comes to you, tackle him or run with him. We figure if a QB can get the ball out fast enough with that much heat in his face he is probably pretty darn good and our DB's should be able to stay with a guy for the 5 yds into his route he gets before the Q has to start running. The only thing that has hurt us has been screens, but those have been more from our ILB wanting to get into the offensive backfield instead of getting into their drops like they are supposed to.
Very similar situation for us and results. Will mix up the combination of players blitzing (whether it be both ILBs, or a combination of players staying or going, adding up to 7 players).
As long as the players "Do their jobs" and maintain their rush lanes then we will get pressure. The only big plays we give up is when a player(s) take a risk outside of their responsibility and we don't get pressure, allowing the QB to run with the ball or hold on the ball long enough for the WRs to separate from our DBs.
Just something I picked up from watching Boston Colleges 46 video, is that even the threat that you will blitze different defenders or all the defenders makes the offense account for all your defenders every play. With that train of thought bringing the house every once in a while should help your other blitzes because lineman and backs will be less likely to commit immediately to blocking a defender because their assignment tells them to worry about a different defender. It creates one on ones that hopefully you can win.
I hope all is well. BElieve it or not, I was at the clinic where coach Pettine gave this clinic (Baltimore Glazier). Before going to the pros he was a HFC at a regional high school in my area, so I went to see him speak. Very good and obviously knows his stuff.
Thanks again for sending. Its also available on the Megaclinic site if you are a season pass holder, for anyone else who may also read this thread.
Coach D
Philly suburb HS
"The only players I have hurt with my words are ones who have an inflated opinion on their ability" - Bill Parcells