Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Does anyone have any good suggestions on where to find information on the midline,veer and triple option offenses. If anything I am more interested in the midline and veer techniques for lineman and skill.
Midline is best, in my opinion out of the wishbone, double-wing, or straight T, Veer can be best run out of split-back (assuming you want to run both outside and inside veer), Wishbone, or T, and triple option is completely based on how you block things. You can run outside veer as a true triple or as a double with a pitch available. Veer is very simple, just double down and slip to second level--don't touch read man. Inside veer read is B gap, outside read is C gap. Midline is not my forte, but as I know it is much like veer--just now reading A gap. Big difference is the QB footwork and getting him willing to stick his nose inside. No pitch for midline either. For any option blocking, the key is low, hard and continual driving. I've seen several good veer teams that keep all their linemen in a 4-pt stance to make sure that they are firing out low.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
Post by soonerj355alan on Jan 28, 2010 7:25:12 GMT
We only run midline to the B Gap player or 3 technique. Blocking is much like trapping the 3 tech but you obviously dont pull the BSG. We haven't run this in the last few years, but that is how we used to do it. Usually as only a double option but it can be done with a triple scheme. Jrkelly, you said read the A gap in midline. Could you explain a little more about that. We generally have run inside veer to an A gap player and Midline or outside veer to the B gap player. Just wondering how that works.
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Midline is over center, reading the first man head up to outside the G (the A gap bubble)...Basically you are reading how he closes down A gap. Inside veer is run over the guard reading the first defender outside the gap (usually). Inside veer is a B gap play (Over G), outside veer is a C gap play (over T) in my playbook. Outside veer is usually tough to run if you don't run a TE, though.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
I see...so in a way we are saying the same thing. Just a different way to say it. On midline we read the 2-3 technique and how he plays to the A gap. I guess I was just a little confused on how you put it. As with our kids, sometimes its all in the wording.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.
All you have to remember is the read for the midline is the person responsible for the A Gap, the inside veer is who is responsible for the B Gap and the outside veer is who is responsible for the C Gap. The best call is being able to adjust if you have a midline and the key is in a 1 technique and you can make a Oscar call (Opposite side) or just go out to the next hole which would be the inside veer.
Those of you that run Option out of the I formation I am wondering how you handle blocking on the perimeter when you get different defensive looks. I see alot of teams that run option exclusively talking about seeing Cover 4 almost exclusively which makes sense, I assume they roll to cover three either with a cloud or sky look.
My question is, Do you see 4 high look? If so dont you just lick your chops and run ISO, Power, Counter until the cows come home?
Alot of what I have read is Coach Campbells "Option on Me" stuff where he talks in terms of overhangs determining which type of option to run. However if a team is in a cover 4 look it would appear to not have any overhangs thus giving the QB a "false" read as far as which option to run. Do you just assume that if they are in a cover 4 look the safety is going to roll down into the alley or how do you handle it?
Also just in general how do you run your option game out of the I and what other run plays do you couple with it.
I like coach campbells stuff He only runs midline to the strong side and at a 2 or 3 tech. Inside Veer he only runs to the weak side 2i and 5 techs Load/Lead Option to a 5 & 9 tech strong.
It really seems to make sense, I am thinking that we pair the option stuff with Iso, Power, Toss, Counter Trey, FB trap.
My thinking is if we are a good ISO , Power, Counter team then the defense will have to declare pre sanp where the 8th man is going to be.
So if we see a 50 fromt and we are in 21 personell in an I pro rt (te flanker rt) set. The SS comes down to the TE side as the 8th man, this would give us imside veer weak all day until they make an adjustment because there would not be an overhang to the weakside.
I would just like to get some good conversation on this going.
Thanks
Looking to find ways to successfully defend the single wing offense.
Coach, I am in the exact same boat as you. Right now we are an I team that is power game first, then veer series. As much as I would like it to be the other way around, its not. We too have: Iso, trap, counter, power, and sweep but have added belly as well. I've tried to keep our veer series simple because having two seperate offensive thoughts is not easy in itself. In our option series we have: midline, inside and outside veer, speed or load, and counter option. I am a coach that likes to be able to run any play out of any formation we have, we do run the midline at shades and 1s, the qb just has to know that its going to be a keep 95% of the time. I would prefer to run it at 3s all the time dont get me wrong. Like most do we also run the inside against odd fronts and outside against even fronts. We dont see alot of cover 4, mostly 2 and man. So let me ask you what do you like to do on the edge against man and 2??
Post by Coach Campbell on Oct 2, 2010 20:23:41 GMT
Load Option with Motion using a wall scheme bu the motion man with the fullback loading the cover 2 safety with the motion they may roll to cover 3. Coach Campbell