Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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looking for some direction. We are a Pro Splitback veer team who, in the past, have run our mid-line veer exclusively to the tight end. We face a lot of 50 hybrid fronts and one 6-2 who don't line up real soundly on the backside, especially when we go unbalanced, and we have never been able to take full advantage of it. I want to start diversifying this play and, with the QB we have right now, want to make it a bigger part of our offense. I was thinking that when we run it to the weak, I would use the back opposite the play (pitch back) to explode on the snap and kick out the first man outside the read (3 tech) with the playside tackle getting a free release to first backer head up/inside. When we run it to the TE our T makes the call of either ladder (where he gets first LB head up to inside) or Fold (he kicks out, TE lead blocks through C gap), but I would rather not use those rules for this block if there would be no issues with having the pitchback give an automatic kickout. Does anyone else run weak mid-line as a staple of their offense? How do you block it?
I'm having a tough time picturing what you are seeing from your description. When I am drawing up a 50 and 60 front, I see inside veer as the bubble that is most likely to be open, unless there are some very strange things happening with the defensive alignment. Can you try to show what you are seeing as the front that you are needing to block?
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
It's not as much about the fronts we are going to face as much as having the play and its blocking rules in our playbook.
We are in Pro Right
5 Tech DE 3 TECH DT 1 TECH NT (to the TE) 3 TECH DT 5 TECH DT 9 TECH DE Will stacked on G and SAM stacked on the B.
They are really trying to take away our OSV (bread and butter) and are obviously vulnerable outside and to the pass. It's like playing against a junior league team that just sends everyone up a gap. I realize there are other things we can run successfully (and have) against this defense, but I just want some more options. We have run weakside midline in the past but always have offset our backs and I want to get away from giving away that key and run it out of split. We also see a 3-5 with two 5 techniques and a shaded nose to our TE which i also think this play could be successful against. Can a backside pitchback successfully kickout the last man on the LOS when running a weak midline veer? We run a little counter trey out of a stagger look with the backside G pulling onto LB and the weak back kicking out DE, but the angle is much better. Thoughts?
The problem with the 60 front is that your man on man across the line. Personally, if you aren't great at turning your reach blocks or moving with drive blocks, then your not going to have much success without using ISO rules for the lead back. Essentially, double team, POA and use the first back to hammer the second level, and cut off that block. Works ok for a while but they will adjust. From there I would simply use down blocks with PS guard trapping the LMOLOS (DE). Then you're free to run your outside game with both backs and the QB. TE simply goes second level straight off the snap ear holes the first man he sees. You can run both strong and weak with the trap.
The Midline is there big time as they, more than likely, have two LB.s left. Coach Kelly is spot on.
Realistically, you might have more success trying to get them to adjust to the Midline reverting to a 40 or 50 front to displace that open middle. Otherwise a healthy mixture of Traps and Midline should keep them dancing.
Just thinking out loud.
Its not about how much YOU know about the game, its about how much you share that knowledge with the people around you.
As far as option goes to the weak side...3 tech is unblocked--inside release by the G to Will. WT base block DE. C Base block 1 Nose. SG inside release to Sam. ST--tough block here, but teams like Carson Newman have made a living off of this--have to get 3 tech, prob a cut block. TE same as ST but to 5 tech. All in all, it is basically inside veer blocking, just adjust your launch point for inside veer to A gap or near hip of C. What you are talking about with the back blocking sounds like load, and that's a great play here, but then that block is usually a log not a kick-out. Could be a great play if you can get to the second level and get the backside 3 tech blocked. Frankly, I would run a ton of weak toss from this as well with the LT and LG both pulling to cross the face of the man on them to widen that end. Simple iso and blast to the weak side is wide open too--strong side too, for that matter. But as you said, a quick slant to the back side is there too. Have you tried running a twins set to that side? If they don't shift their corner, you have numbers, if they do, strong side is wide open.
Also...upon looking at it, if your WG can handle their 3 tech over him without help, a wide split by the WT--at least 4-5 ft--can really open up one hell of an outside veer to the weak side. You are then playing 3 on 1 rather than 2 on 1.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
In the past, we have hurt them big time by exposing their corners and by running load/buck. I guess I am not explaining the RB block (which I have never used before but am trying to figure out if it is worth considering) well enough, it's tough w/o a graphic. It's not a load block because it is my pitchback taking a direct line away from the strong side and kicking out the DE across the formation. Then I can release my LG to Will AND release my LT to first to show through C and get a bigger numbers advantage. I'll try to figure out how to get a graphic up to show the block.
Pitch Back - Take a line directly across the butt of the back running mid-line and attack the inside hip of the last man on the LOS.
I am not an under center option guy, but I can tell you that we have had great difficulty defending a trap option to that side, The team that tore us up with it was a wishbone team, but I would think some of the same priciples apply, qb would reverse out, they would fake the dive to the strong side, pull either G or C and give to the RB that was on the weak side. I know this is not splitback midline, but you said you were looking for some things to take advantage of the over adjustment to the TE. PM me if you want me to email a diagram of what they did to us.
OK, that makes sense now...The angle is good, if you can time it up. You'd have to have a pitch back that can fly, though. It's one of those blocks that looks great on paper, but I don't know that he'd be able to get there in time. I could be wrong.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
I'm a bit of a geek, so I did the math on this...Based on what I teach on minimum splits for my linemen in SBV, I figure the back has a bit over 6 yds to cover in the time the QB has to mesh and attack maybe 1.5 yds...any more than that and you've got issues with possible collisions in the backfield. It's not impossible, by any means, I don't think, but it would be very fine timing.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
We start our summer practices in two weeks, so I want to rep it then and see what it looks like. As long as he beats the QB to the G (which I think with enough reps he could) and the wide ends aren't crashing down too hard I think we could run it with some practice. It's just really enticing to me to be able to release weak tackle/guard and get even more of a numbers advantage. Thanks for the calculations!