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In both Fritz Shurmur and Kenny Ratledge's books on the double eagle, Bear, 46 defense they have their outside Ends/OLBs pointed in and coming hard. Shurmur has them aiming at a spot 4 yds deep and Ratledge has them aim for the near or deepest back. Both Coaches have them responsible for contain and coming hard. This seems contradictory and would require an extraordinary athlete. Shurmur talks about reading the near back and the pulling lane while Ratledge has him reading the near back. What suggestions and drills can anyone offer that will help me teach this to our kids. We like the hard charge of the angled ends but don't understand how you can come hard and contain also, am I missing something? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
I would suggest reading Rex Ryan's adaptation of his fathers 46. Personnel does indeed make a huge difference with this defense. The thing about pressure from the edge your are aiming at the near hip of the deepest or closest back (depending on backfield). It is not a shallow path thus, in theory, your forcing the play inside or to go deeper to get outside the pressure. If they do indeed go deeper to circumvent the pressure, your defense has got to recognize that. More often than not the Will or Sam is wrapping the edge as well, for that very reason. One has to remember that Ryan had studs and did not take kindly to folks who were not "smart enough" or athletic enough to grasp the concepts involved.
Main points:
Unrelenting Pressure from various sides and personnel. Overload the blocking capability. Put a clock on the QB (Play).
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JFLCoach, yes I've read Rex Ryan's book also and he plays his ends/olb's in more of a traditional mode instead of the tilted "come out of their shoes" attack ends Ratledge and Shurmur use. The aiming point of near back's hip or deepest back rather than the 4 yd point that Shurmur uses does change the angle and would make it easier to keep outside leverage. How wide do you make your ends - 2 yds from outside End of Line? Any drills you can recommend would be appreciated. Any other material you can recommend for information about the Bear 46?
We run a 50 front quite a bit and our ends play head up on the TE, we still teach them to fly to the hip of the deepest back and the only time we adjust that much is against a team that runs jet/rocket a lot. We still make plays on toss etc. I'm not that familiar with the 4-6. Does the base look have that much to do with that technique? We have found that we have way more problems if the kid comes upfield too much rather than if he angles in too much. Just curious as to the differences here and how you think it should be played.
Despite what it sounds like, Buddy Ryan and Fritz Shurmur were not just sending people without a plan. On a "pro" set, the SS was aligned in a 2-pt stance over the TE. He was there to slow the TE, cover him short, and be able to peel and pursue inside-out to the edge. The DE's and OLB's were not only aiming for a spot, they were reading along the way, and adjusting to that read. Also, it can't be forgotten that there were two LB's that were rarely touched and free to make plays outside. Mike Singletary was able to roam from sideline to sideline without ever being touched because both the guards and the center were covered. If the contain man was able to force the ballcarrier to bow backward even a step, help would get there--even if the DE was not able to catch the ballcarrier.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
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Originally posted by: greenough We run a 50 front quite a bit and our ends play head up on the TE, we still teach them to fly to the hip of the deepest back and the only time we adjust that much is against a team that runs jet/rocket a lot. We still make plays on toss etc. I'm not that familiar with the 4-6. Does the base look have that much to do with that technique? We have found that we have way more problems if the kid comes upfield too much rather than if he angles in too much. Just curious as to the differences here and how you think it should be played.
Coach, The ends/olbs in the 46 the way Shurmur and Ratledge play them is quite different from the standard 50 ends, they are more like the ends in the Florida State 43. They are tilted at a 45 degree angle and have an aiming point in the backfield anywhere from the near/deepest back to 4 yards behind the LOS. Their reads can be the TE, OT, near back, pulling lane or any combination. They are on the attack.
The angle is such that they (DE) are not going flat to the backfield. The object here is to put the TE/OT in a pickle about how to block the DE. SO, if I widen to 2-3 yards, and my aiming point is the near hip of the deepest or closest back, the OT/TE has to take a couple of Giant bucket steps to cut the DE off. That is difficult at best and it also exposes the edge of the offense to the OSLB, SS, or CB as a follower. So as my DE takes the angle to the backfield, the OSLB might be looping behind him to pick up the left overs or leakage.
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what JFLCOACH has it good, that is how I would play them if I had them contain. When we play the 46 we have our OLB's spill contain to our mike and SS. The ends just come down hill and make it happen. We got the idea from Steve Szabo, he has a video were he details the techinque called Adapting the 46 defense to high school football. You used to be able to get it off of sysko sports but im not sure if you still can.
My ends widen as much as they feel they cannot be blocked by the OT or TE. You do indeed have to watch how crazy their splits get so that once they widen to take on the DE, he shortens to come inside the "crazy" split. The other thing I can do is Widen the DE and see if they chase him and, if they do, then I bring Will or Sam through that huge gap and let them spill or contain it. Mind games with OT and TE thats what it amounts to. How do I block the DE and OSLB without changing my offense or game plan? The answer is, if your the DC, you cant.
The crux of the argument is that all of this absolutely has to happen between the OT tackles. If you allow the offense to get outside the tackles your sunk!!
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