Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I have two questions on d-line play in the 33 stack. First, how tight to the LOS is base alignment? Second, I recently heard a coach on a video refer to "olay" (?) technique for slanting teams and I have no idea what he is referrring to. Thanks.
Anyone that is interested in the 33 can find an article at AFCA.com It is in their library section under summer manual 2002, defense, Ron Roberts.
Coach, We play our defensive lineman 2.5 feet off the l.o.s. you do not have to play so deep, we do for a couple of reasons. Number 1 we are very quick but under sized. We are going to use our quickness to beat the offensive blocker we count on him to raise up and take us to where the ball is going. Number 2 when we slant versus man blocking teams it gives us better angles to slant a full man over. Olay: I use that term when we are not going to mess with an offensive blocker. Example would be if my defensive tackle wanted to get a pass rush, he will Olay the offensive lineman, meaning not try to engage him at all. Just as the bull fighter would with the bull. How far off the ball are others playing their d-lineman? I would love to talk about this....
Post by defenseisgold on Apr 27, 2003 17:28:04 GMT
For the 33 stack, I have not found very much info on the depth of the alignment. We start our young players at 3+ feet to teach them how to read an offensive lineman, then advance to reading on the move while slanting. The better the players get, the tighter we align them. Vs. wing t teams, we back up the front three to 3+ feet. We are leaning toward telling the players to adjust themselves as needed in the game. If the o lineman is getting to you, back up and maybe even shade to the slant, if not stay tight and head up. I've heard several 33 stack coaches refer to it as "teaching alingment vs. performance alignment".
Defenseisgold, I just read Ron Roberts article, thank you for that information. His video's are very good too. I agree with you 100% We tell our kids to align where they can be most successful. Our nose guard is very quick and good, he gets himself into trouble often because he gets to tight. How do you read while you slant? Do you two gap your D-lineman and how do they do that if you do? Thanks coach.
I heard a successful slant 50 coach, who aligns 2-3 ft off the los, say one reason he aligns off the los is so his players can be agressive off the ball, and not get penalties when they jump offsides. He had been having a tough time with kids jumping. He realized that he was condradicting himself when he was telling them to fire off full tilt, but punishing them for getting "silly" penalties. He said if you aren't giving away the direction you are slanting with your alignment, being close isn't that big of a deal.
Yes Sir!! I here coaches yell at their d-line when they jump. Every day we go on all different counts etc, we tell our d-line to be deaf to the count but they will jump and I will never yell at them. A d-lineman cannot play tenative or he will lose.... LB's have to give down and distance and remind them deaf to count on certain downs. Another thing I do not like is telling the d-line to watch Pass, watch Screen, Watch Run etc... Let them play.... They practice all week, all year on situations and blocking schemes if everyone is yelling at them they will lose some aggressiveness.
Post by defenseisgold on Apr 28, 2003 17:25:53 GMT
HAWKOPTION The key for us it to progress to it by reading a single lineman without slanting to making the same reads while slanting. The best drill we have found is to align three d linemen (T-N-T) on five offensive lineman and hold cards for the o line to work blocks that the d line reacts to while slanting. Part of the time will include a lineman as a TE. We work hard on redirecting when the read tells us the play is the other way. If the player has to back door it, we let him. If he can cross face, we let him. We teach them the best way to do both and then hopefully react during the game. We just lost the best d lineman I've ever had at this. He could not be trapped and redirecte on a time. He was not fast, but had excellent footwork. In a playoff game the team we played ran tackle counter and reverse and he almost took the handoff by reading pullers. He also lead the team in jumping offsides, especially early in the game before the got a feel for the QB and the o line in front of him.
We will two gap the nose if he can handle it. We have been fortunate the last three years to have ones that could. That has changed and now we are young and not yet very strong. That is partly why the 33 looks so attractive. When we two gap him, he uses the stuff technique that Coach Roberts refers to. Nothing more than attack the breast plate, lock out and react.
Which tapes from coach Roberts do you have? I really like his approach to the 33 and want to get all I can from him. Thanks.
We teach our players to key the back tip of the ball or the near lineman's down hand. We don't get on them if they jump. If they see a twitch get off! You must have them get off as aggressive as possible.
Well, someone has to be the odd ball, right? We don't back our guys off of the line at all--in fact, we crowd the LOS until the refs start giving us warnings. I, personally, can't see any logic in giving the offense any extra yardage. Maybe we're different from you guys in high school because all of our players get to learn DLine technique for six hours a day. We can slant pretty good from our 3-3 stack. We use a 6-8 inch power (lateral) step when slanting and always employ a rip move so as to take the OL with us as we cross his face. You guys have a lot of different ideas, though. You make me question myself sometimes--but I don't know about that 2-3 feet off of the LOS stuff...I'm not buyin' it.
We have been talking about how far to line up when slanting and what we decided is that if you are quick enough to clear the man you are lining up over, then get as close to the LOS as possible. If you aren't so quick, back off so you can. We'll see what happens.
That makes sense. Boy, I'll tell ya... I coached HS 2 yrs ago and no matter how much I stressed it, I just could not get those kids to fire off on the snap the way I wanted them to. I used to pull my hair out when I would watch the film. They just weren't anticipating...they thought they could muscle through everything--drove me nuts.
One thing I do for get-off is kind of crazy but I put my kids into harness and actually go through the stimulus response/ They cannot fall because of the harness and the get to explode off the ball GOLLA