Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I have been on the phone and visited with many coaches around my area and most of them frown upon the 50 because they say it takes away from pursuit and limits the coverages. After talking with them I think they may be correct. Plus there is another delima. Do the ends need to be more LB than DE are they to be singular in propse and that is to stop the run? I would like to hear what any of you think.
We use a drop end and a rush end. The drop end is more agile - ideally he can cover a tight end or a receiver with some help over the top, but he must be able to play curl to flat, as well as playing the traditional DE on the line when necessary. I think the 50 gives you a lot of different looks if you do it this way. I can't think of a coverage you can't play. So I like the 50, just my opinion and it's probably because it is what I know. The 3-3 or 3-5 sounds like it is very diverse - still learning about that.
Would you suggest flipping the rush end and drop end or do each need to be adequate at pass rushing/run stopping as well as coverage? If so, would the traditonal 3-4 be a better defense?
We use a combination of rush/drop DE-OLB. When we face double TE (that includes OT/Wing) teams then use them as rush DE. If teams run double slot then they become drop - contain ends. If we face a pro set (TE - SE) then we have a rush DE and drop DE. We usually tell the Weakside DT to Eagle down to outside shade of OG, and the drop end to eagle down to outside shade of OT. We train both our ends to be OLB and DE, that way if you face a team that likes to Trade TE then you don't have to swap the DE's.
Last year we flipped them after finding out it was easier to have them specialize. For example, if we were playing cover 3, the strong safety and rush end would go to the strong side (usually the side with the most quick receivers) and the drop end would go the the weak side - SS and DE are flat defenders. I am not sure if the 3-4 would be better, I think if you know what you are doing and teach either defense well it will be sound. Have you been running a 50?
I could not disagree more with the coaches that you have spoken with. Let's tackle each of the points you mentioned in your first post and then some of the other suggestions made.
Pursuit Any defense, regardless of front or coverage, will not be great at pursuit unless it is stressed by you the coach. If it is not talked about, drilled, and hammered in daily, it will not be relevent to the players. As for specifics with angles, you the coach designate the pursuit lanes and angles. There are a variety of drills and methods to do this but the most basic would be to line the defense up and show them, either by cones or lines on the field, where exactly they are to go should the ball be run/thrown to either the left, right, or middle.
Pass Coverage There is not a coverage run that can't be run out of the odd front. The question you need to determine is who is going to drop and who is going to rush. If you employ two OLB's, you can designate one or the other. Either the strong side is the Drop LB or the open side is the Drop LB. In either case, you can run anycoverage you want. The SS would go align away from your Drop LB. You could also drop both of the OLB's while keeping a cover 2 shell and sending one of the ILB's as your fourth pass rusher. Another option would be to rush only 3 and drop 8. Again, the possibilities are endless; it's just a matter of you determining what coverges you would like to run.
Rush/Drop End We run the Pro 3-4 and with that, we will use two OLB type players. We do not flip them. This cuts down significantly on alignment issues. We never have to worry about a player misaligning, especially against multiple formation, motion, shifting teams. One player plays to the right, the other plays to the left. Sometimes, if one is better than the other, we will allow the better of the two to play on the favorite run/pass side if the offense. Each will learn how to play the position and all that it encompasses. By doing this, we cut down on teaching time and what fundametals need to be taught. We will, as mentioned by Root 66, reduce down on the weakside versus two back sets. If we were facing a team that ran this offense exclusively, we could put a lineman in for the weakside OLB position and play him in a 5 tech on the OT. If the team were to shift the TE from one side to the other, the strongside OLB would just come over with him. If the team began to motion the TE like an H-back, would then bring our other OLB back in the game.
We do not run a 50. I have always been a man that likes even fronts. However, in the job I have just accepted, we are very thin on the DL and I mean anorexic. So I was thinking of swithching to a 3-4 with a 50 look. We are loaded for bear with ss/lb types. We are quick, not fast. So I was just tossing around ideas, to help enhance our strengths and hide our weaknesses. What do you guys think?
speed kills. you may even look at going to a 3-3-5 look, so you can get 8 or 9 guys in the box against 2 back teams. a 3 man front is very versatile because it allows you to blitz both run and pass, from many different angles and you can play max coverage when not blitzing. you would just need to drill the kids on blitzing both the run and the pass and what the expecations are. good luck to you!
Coach K, I think you can take advantage of your quick athletes with a 50 look. You will be fine with a 3-4 as long as you teach it well. Good luck.
Bornn - In cover 3, if your OLB is dropping and has a TE and flanker or slot and split end on his side, where do you line him up? I can't remember if you play your corners inside or not, but I assume that is the deciding factor in playing over # 2 or wider. C Faust
The 3-4 is how I decided to go. It will be a fifty, but will be played more like the 3-4 Alabama ran back in the mid to late 80s when Derrick Thomas and Corneilus Bennet was there. We will be atacking from every angle known to man. I am excited bout it and so are the coaches. I know the players will be. Thanks for all the advice.
Obviuosly this formation, which we call Y trips, can cause some issues. The question that needs to be answered is, "What do they like to do out of this formation and does their player personnel gives us any clue as to what they like to do (ie. pass or run).
What we do to start off with is leave our Sam (SOLB) aligned on the TE and play our SS inside shade of #2 at about 10-12 yards and a CB will align from 6-8 yards inside of #1. If a team likes to run out of this formation, we will leave the Sam in a tighter alignment on the TE. If they like to pass, we will loosen him up. How much is determined by how comfortable you are in the players ability to take care of the run and assist on pass coverage.
From this alignment, we will run a basterized version of Cover 3. The CB, Sam, and SS will take care of #1 and #2. THe CB and SS will take care of all vertical routes while the Sam will assist on the short game. The Mike (SILB) will carry the TE vertical with help from the FS over the top.
Teams will attack the flat with a speed cut out by #2 or a hitch by #1. This is where the chess match comes into to play. We have played games with our CB, playing him up and back, using bail tech., allowing him to jump the quick set speed cut out of #2, and etc. We have played man to man across the board; we have showed our base alignment and on the snap, our SS will come up hard and cover the quick pop to #2, the slant by #1, or the quick set out to the TE. Again, the key is to determine what they like to do out of the set and come up with solutions on how to defend it.
We for the most part run our base coverage and will only use the above mentioned adjustments should they begin to attack those area's consistently. If they hit it once or twice in the game, we will stick with our base coverage. It is when they do 3 or more that we will start playing games.