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gawntrail
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3-3 Gurus..... Oct 23, 2003 10:30:57 GMT

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Post by gawntrail on Oct 23, 2003 10:30:57 GMT

Coaches,

I am from the 4-4 school of thought and think it might be an easy transition (to the 30). I feel that having more LB types on the field (if you've got them) allows for better schemes against a run dominate schedule. (I also believe that the LB corps is the core of any defense...more LBs = more power)

What type of players are you looking for at each position in this scheme? Is your 30 front 1 true DL with 2 DEs or 3 DL types or

Can 4-4 DEs play the 30 with the same responsibilitys? Can I assume that a 3-3-5 is 3 LBs and 5 DBs and a 3-5-3 is 5 LBs and 3 DBs?? Or what?

?? Please help straighten me out. I would like to learn more about this defense so I can possibly implement it in the next season or two.

Puzzled and confused,

Coach G

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3-3 Gurus..... Oct 24, 2003 9:05:23 GMT

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Post by 3-3-5 Coach on Oct 24, 2003 9:05:23 GMT

our team has won more games this year than in the last 10 years all together! This defense has been great for us - here is how I can describe each position:

NOSEGUARD – “Wrestler” type player; cannot be single blocked by Center
ENDS – Agile and athletic
MIKE – Strongest LB
LOU LB – Best LB (plays against right side of offense)
ROB LB – Next best available!
FIELD SPUR – Best LB/DB combination player; physical; must be able to play man coverage
BOUNDARY SPUR – Less physical than Field Spur; must be able to play man coverage
CORNERBACKS - Cover!
FREE SAFETY – Best athlete, best player; Quarterbacks the defense

Also, to me, the 3-3-5 and the 3-5-3 is the same thing. Some teams play a few different zone coverages out of it which to me merits the 3-3-5 title. Whether it is either, the two outside force players are a db/lb hybrid who must play both at times. We are a small private school that does not have a lot of pure athletic, tough kids - which is why we flip flop our Spur according to hash mark. This has been a big help for us. Hope this helps.

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3-3 Gurus..... Nov 2, 2003 21:37:51 GMT

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Post by DC29 on Nov 2, 2003 21:37:51 GMT

agreed with 3-3-5 coach.

only difference for us is we use 2 really big guys at nose and mike.

the teams we face, we find it better to have a big-strong nose. one who can not only slant both ways, but also drive a center back when needed. the centers get so used to him slanting, then we just have him smash right through.

at mike we also use a pretty big player. he might even be a dt if we played a 40 front. we may change our minds when he graduates, but he is a dl that can run some. since his main job is 1 of the a gaps, he does very well for us.

last one with the pencil wins!!

emccabe Member Posts: 52	3-3 Gurus..... Nov 10, 2003 0:32:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by emccabe on Nov 10, 2003 0:32:39 GMT Where is a good place to go to get more info on the defense? I also coach at a small private school and do not have many true DL types, but more LBs.

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3-3 Gurus..... Nov 19, 2003 11:27:28 GMT

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Post by DC29 on Nov 19, 2003 11:27:28 GMT

up until now, the best place i have found is here on the jc forums. there doesn't seem to be as much info on the 33, the way we'd like to run it. we stack our lb's very tight to the dl. the colleges i've seen run it tend to have their lb's at about 4-5 yards off their dl.

i've found there are some pretty good coaches in here that are very willing to help.

last one with the pencil wins!!

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3-3 Gurus..... Dec 16, 2003 15:13:48 GMT

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Post by mr_fr33z3 on Dec 16, 2003 15:13:48 GMT

I have some

? about the scheme aspects of things I'm from missouri and teams here are more vertical when it comes to passing and run alot of counters, traps and ISO's so what cov.? and what types of blitz do you think I could use to stop alot of that such thing?? thanks for all your help

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3-3-5 Coach Senior Member Posts: 246	3-3 Gurus..... Dec 16, 2003 16:38:01 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by 3-3-5 Coach on Dec 16, 2003 16:38:01 GMT Coach, Email me for my trade list which will help you. Also, give me a call 610 - 814-6255 (EST time zone) and I will help you as much as I can.

3-3-5 Coach Senior Member Posts: 246	3-3 Gurus..... Dec 16, 2003 16:38:22 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by 3-3-5 Coach on Dec 16, 2003 16:38:22 GMT Coach, Email me for my trade list which will help you. Also, give me a call 610 - 814-6255 (EST time zone) and I will help you as much as I can. ballcoach1@netzero.net

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3-3 Gurus..... Dec 26, 2003 8:40:56 GMT

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Post by Coach Tony on Dec 26, 2003 8:40:56 GMT

Can someone please share the basics to the 3-3 Defense?
We took over a program that went from winning to 5 games in 10 years to a 7-3 playoff team in our second season. We need a defense to take on the stronger teams to make the next jump. We have athletes but not the size to take on the next level teams. Please email me with the needed information or the places where I can get it.

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Post by gawntrail on Oct 23, 2003 10:30:57 GMT

Post by 3-3-5 Coach on Oct 24, 2003 9:05:23 GMT

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Post by emccabe on Nov 10, 2003 0:32:39 GMT

Post by DC29 on Nov 19, 2003 11:27:28 GMT

Post by mr_fr33z3 on Dec 16, 2003 15:13:48 GMT

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