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coachcb
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man coverage? Oct 28, 2003 9:35:54 GMT

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Post by coachcb on Oct 28, 2003 9:35:54 GMT

Coaches, We play alot of press-man and some off-man coverage. We strongly believe that if you have the athletes, and we usually do, then man coverage allows you to use a variety of attacking fronts. We play a limited amount of off-man unless we're forced to do so because of bunch or slot trips formations. We play a certain technique against bunch formations, trips & tight twins formations but sometimes have trouble with "naturally occuring" pick routes. We play off-man on the "off" receivers and hard press on the "on" receiver. We're pretty satisfied with our hard press results against these kind of formations but would like to experiment with off-man techniques. Any suggestions? We believe that press-man is the best way to cover against a single receiver to one side but are curious about techniques that other man-to-man teams use against pick routes along with productive techniques used when covering from an off position (5-7 yards). Also, I would appreciate any info on how others play man against bunch & quad sets that don't incorporate "switching" receivers. It's not that I have no interest in "switching",(we do it some) just wondering if anyone had other techniques that they use. Thanks a bunch!

LedgerSko Senior Member Posts: 316	man coverage? Oct 28, 2003 14:22:48 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by LedgerSko on Oct 28, 2003 14:22:48 GMT One thing we use is to play very tight man on the apex of the bunch then jam the crap out of him at the line. This usually throws the timing off and severly disrupts the timing and mesh points of bunch type routes.
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man coverage? Oct 28, 2003 14:26:45 GMT

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Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Oct 28, 2003 14:26:45 GMT

Coach,

Well, first off I have to say that you are very luck to have the athletes at the corners to play almost exclusively man coverage. That shows not only a wealth of talent out there, but also in your front seven to be able to stop the run wihtout a lot of run support help from the corners. As for off man techniques against a bunch formation, one way to defend it is to have the defensive backs line up in the exact same formation as the recievers. What I mean by this is if they have the middle reciever up on the line with a reciever on either side of him off the line, have your DBs line up with the middle DB line up a little farther back than the DBs covering the receivers that flank the middle one, about the same difference the WRs are lined up. This allows for free running without as much risk of rubbing off without switching. And if they are in quads or even an extra wide split trips formation, you can have the outside DB line up a little deeper because a throw out to that WR takes more time. I hope I have helped out a little. Let me know what you think of these techniques. Good luck.

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man coverage? Oct 30, 2003 7:19:11 GMT

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Post by coachcb on Oct 30, 2003 7:19:11 GMT

Thanks coaches. We actually play a combination of both techniques: really jam the hell out of the apex receiver in bunch and line up the other 2 defenders just like the receivers they're covering but at different levels to avoid rub offs. We don't have as much trouble with bunch formations as we do with 3 receiver trips in a spread set (no TE). We have more trouble with receivers when they're spaced out than when they're tight. An suggestions on using a zone variation against these kinds of formations that hides man-to-man alignments? Thanks again for the replies.

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man coverage? Nov 1, 2003 8:09:46 GMT

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Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Nov 1, 2003 8:09:46 GMT

Coach,

If you want to throw in a a zone look against it, a 3 deep nickel coverage with the nickel walked out to just inside the #3 receiver and taking the hook/curl area, but giving the man look. The SS would be in the flat and over the #2 and the C would be over the #1, giving the same look as in your man coverage. There are also variations where you drop the SS into the deep outside third instead of the C. On the backside, you'd hvae that C in his deep thrid, but he is basically one one on one with some FS help in the middle. You could also do this with your base personel, but it would be tough to have your OLB running with the #3 WR and you would need to have your FS to shade to that receiver to help, really leaving the backside corner on his own. There are ways to hide it too from a 2 shell if you have the personel who have the ability and knowledge to start at one place and walk with the cadence into better position. If you want more info on that, i can give it to you. But I hope this bit is a good start with the help.

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man coverage? Nov 1, 2003 8:10:58 GMT

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Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Nov 1, 2003 8:10:58 GMT

Coach,

If you want to throw in a a zone look against it, a 3 deep nickel coverage with the nickel walked out to just inside the #3 receiver and taking the hook/curl area, but giving the man look. The SS would be in the flat and over the #2 and the C would be over the #1, giving the same look as in your man coverage. There are also variations where you drop the SS into the deep outside third instead of the C. On the backside, you'd hvae that C in his deep thrid, but he is basically one one on one with some FS help in the middle. You could also do this with your base personel, but it would be tough to have your OLB running with the #3 WR and you would need to have your FS to shade to that receiver to help, really leaving the backside corner on his own. There are ways to hide it too from a 2 shell if you have the personel who have the ability and knowledge to start at one place and walk with the cadence into better position. If you want more info on that, i can give it to you. But I hope this bit is a good start with the help.

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man coverage? Nov 7, 2003 15:18:38 GMT

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Post by zulu on Nov 7, 2003 15:18:38 GMT

coach;

we are almost an exclusive man team, and have been for many years. see the bunched receivers and wr's removed from the los to limit our aggressive on-line bump.
would be happy to share any/all we have.
too much to type here.
can mail the info if you would like.
if interested email is:

sunshine2k1@mailcity.com

would love to help. always interested in doing football!

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DC29 Senior Member Posts: 453	man coverage? Dec 17, 2003 10:44:27 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by DC29 on Dec 17, 2003 10:44:27 GMT i really like playing man and zone with the same outside-over the top technique. most of our man coverage looks like a cover 3 zone.
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man coverage? Dec 17, 2003 21:19:47 GMT

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Post by DC29 on Dec 17, 2003 21:19:47 GMT

the thing with trips and a bunch set we'll do is check to a cover 3. we run a 33, so we bring a stinger out to cover the flats, and corner and safety play their deep 1/3. we see very little of this, so to us it's not as big of a concern, but i'm sure there are probably other and better ways to work it.

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Post by coachcb on Oct 28, 2003 9:35:54 GMT

Post by LedgerSko on Oct 28, 2003 14:22:48 GMT

Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Oct 28, 2003 14:26:45 GMT

Post by coachcb on Oct 30, 2003 7:19:11 GMT

Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Nov 1, 2003 8:09:46 GMT

Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Nov 1, 2003 8:10:58 GMT

Post by zulu on Nov 7, 2003 15:18:38 GMT

Post by DC29 on Dec 17, 2003 10:44:27 GMT

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