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lochness
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High School Feeder program Dec 9, 2003 9:40:22 GMT

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Post by lochness on Dec 9, 2003 9:40:22 GMT

Gentlemen,

I have a question regarding "feeder programs" for your high school. Currently, we have a "Pee Wee / Pop Warner" level football program in our town, which due to town politics, has been failing for the last few years. The problem is that we lose interest and numbers by having a weaker feeder program in place. Another problem is that we don't end up developing any larger athletes because of the weight limitations placed on you in those leagues.

We are looking to start a program (there are leagues in our state that accomodate this) that is a non-weight limit feeder program in the image of our own (general systems and terminology) that is an option for Junior High aged athletes.

What goes into establishing something like this and what kinds of costs area associated?

Any and all help is much appreciated.

CoachKramer
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High School Feeder program Dec 12, 2003 6:50:12 GMT

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Post by CoachKramer on Dec 12, 2003 6:50:12 GMT

I am afraid of the similar situation that happening in our school union ( the school is made up of three towns and three rec departments). We plan on phasing in football at the middle school level. As you know the costs of offereing football are both monetary and skill based. How do you propose to fund and can you find skilled so kids are not learning something you will need to change in several years. Therefore, This fall we intend on offering flag football. Our reasoning is there would be no weight limit, kids could learn to move (many sedentary kids here in Maine), get them in shape/active (alot of obese kids here also), teach basic athletic skills (many don't even play catch or know how to throw. We hope the flag football will lead to contact football.

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High School Feeder program Dec 13, 2003 6:22:59 GMT

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Post by Coach Campbell on Dec 13, 2003 6:22:59 GMT

I would ask how has the youth level coaches taken to the high school coach and his program and way of doing things. I try as a head coach to get our youth coaches involved as much as possible with our program as I can. I try to get around their programs as well. How involved are you with the youth coaches with your clinics etc. Coach Campbell

pdow27
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High School Feeder program Dec 13, 2003 6:35:12 GMT

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Post by pdow27 on Dec 13, 2003 6:35:12 GMT

I think Coach Campbell brings up a very good point. I live in an area that has a number of youth tackle leagues...however, as high school coaches, we very rarely are able to attract the youth coaches to free clinics that we offer. Many of the youth coaches choose not to attend for whatever reasons....as a result, you see these kids learning improper techniques and doing questionable drills. As a parent of a 10 year old son, I will only allow him to play flag football until he enters junior high for that specific reason. It is so critical that HS coaches impact the junior highs and even the youth leagues so that these kids have a chance to learn properly. pdow

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High School Feeder program Dec 13, 2003 21:53:03 GMT

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Post by airman on Dec 13, 2003 21:53:03 GMT

I am glad we do not have a feeder program and all the problems which go with them.

since I am at a private school very few of our kids have played football before they arrive on campus. the great thing about this is we can teach them the proper fundamentals. the kids do not know any different as we are the only coaches they have had. we also get them used to our way of doing things which really helps.

another great thing is the frosh does what the varsity does. we practice 2hrs and 45 min together so from day one the frosh are learing and practicing with the varsity guys. bulids great team work. we also dress our frosh on friday nights to further bring them along in our programs. we are one team regarless of class.

one of the best public schools in our area does not have tackle football until the ninth grade. grade 5to 8 play flag football in a after school program. he says he would not have it any other way and has one 5 state title in 10years.

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High School Feeder program Dec 14, 2003 8:26:36 GMT

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Post by Coach Campbell on Dec 14, 2003 8:26:36 GMT

I have three feeder schools that feed into our freshman program. In texas not like most states we have contact football down into the 7th grade levels. The lower level programs along with the Youth football leagues are the backbone of our entire program. I can't spend enough time with them, they are extremely important to the future success of the football program so I must along with my Varsity and sub-level coaches spend as much time helping them as we can. We have implemented all the same schemes and terminologies throughout the community and school all coaches involved on using trhe same terms, numbering systems, etc. All the coaches at the lower levels are important so I'm going to make sure we invest time into them thus sharing our football knowledge with them and at the same time gaining their thoughts and ideas also. Coach CAmpbell

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High School Feeder program Dec 15, 2003 11:20:06 GMT

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Post by CYFL Coach on Dec 15, 2003 11:20:06 GMT

As a youth football coach and board member I cannot say enough about Coach Campbell's involvement with the kids in our league. Coach Campbell and his staff provided an in depth clinic for our coaches, as well as, the coaches from the three middle schools that feed the Memorial High program. Coach Campbell invited each team from our oldest age group (10-12) to spend time with the team prior to each home game in the varsity locker room as well. I can't begin to express how much that meant to all the kids who had that opportunity this season and to those looking forward to having the opportunity in future seasons. Coach Campbell's commitment to the youth and jr. high programs is second to none and I know it will pay dividends in the near future. All youth leagues face a constant challenge finding and retaining quality coaches each year. I encourage you to reach out to your youth leagues and offer whatever assistance you can. Your involvement with these programs can be very beneficial to everyone involved.

"It's not the will to win that matters - everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters."

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High School Feeder program Jan 11, 2004 8:32:50 GMT

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Post by goboro99 on Jan 11, 2004 8:32:50 GMT

I have to say I believe 100% in getting all your coaches from youth up involved in your program. As a head coach I held a youth camp in the summer and coaches clinic for all levels. I had every player in my system from fourth through 12th grade learning the same terminology, drills and techniques. Our youth league practiced late so I made sure I was a regular at the practices. I'd get a chance to speak with the kids and get to know them. I didn't realize how important that was to those kids until one day I had a meeting at the elementary school. It was awesome! I felt like a celeberty. The kids were running around, telling the teachers that "Coach was in the building".
Another thing that I thought was great was during the summer I was working with QB/FB a few times a week (informally) on veer reads and mesh. Next thing I know I have my 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th 10th and 12th grade QB's all working reads and mesh. That season the veer was being used at all levels of my program with success. Youth coaches want to learn. They want to help your program. Remember, for most of those guys that is there hometown and hometown school. They want to see it thrive as well.
Unfortunitly career goals have forced me to move on from being a small high school head coach to a bigger school assistant. However, the second I get another head job, the first coaches I'll invite to my house will be the middle school and youth guys.

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Post by lochness on Dec 9, 2003 9:40:22 GMT

Post by CoachKramer on Dec 12, 2003 6:50:12 GMT

Post by Coach Campbell on Dec 13, 2003 6:22:59 GMT

Post by pdow27 on Dec 13, 2003 6:35:12 GMT

Post by airman on Dec 13, 2003 21:53:03 GMT

Post by Coach Campbell on Dec 14, 2003 8:26:36 GMT

Post by CYFL Coach on Dec 15, 2003 11:20:06 GMT

Post by goboro99 on Jan 11, 2004 8:32:50 GMT

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