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bigcat
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Breaking down game tape Dec 18, 2003 9:21:05 GMT

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Post by bigcat on Dec 18, 2003 9:21:05 GMT

Coaches,

I am a young coach (33 years old, but only 1 year of experience) and I wanted to spend the Christmas break to grow and learn as a coach. Being inexperienced, I would like to know how you guys go about breaking down game film for scouting reports?

I don't have all the digital scout or other things of that nature, I just want to first learn how to do it the old fashioned way first (in case I land in a job that doesn't have the technology or money to buy it one day). What kind of forms do you use? What are the things you are looking for? Do you draw out the formations and blocking (as best you can) and RB paths and WR routes? Do you break down each snap in detail the first time through, or do you go through and draw the formations to all the offensive plays (if scouting the offense) with the defensive fronts first, then go back and draw the blocking and RB/WR paths and routes?

Any information is greatly appreciated. I know most of you probably don't do it this way anymore, but I am trying to learn as much as I can and since I'm not coaching anywhere this year, I would like to maximize my efforts and increase my knowledge as a coach. I would also like to know this, because if I don't get a full time job for next season, I am gonna try and do some live scouting for some of the schools in my area.

Thanks and have a Merry Christmas.

lochness
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Breaking down game tape Dec 18, 2003 9:46:20 GMT

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Post by lochness on Dec 18, 2003 9:46:20 GMT

Coach,

Actually, I am a young coach too, but I still do things the "old fashioned way". To be honest, it takes a lot of work. If you are speaking of "self scouting"...I'll take each of our game films and watch them multiple times. I will record the down, distance, yardline, field position (hash), formation, play, ballcarrier, and result for every one of our offensive plays. Then, as a coordinator, I make individulal comments on the success or failure of the play against that opponent. As a position coach, I will comment on my backs or QB's footwork, faking, reads, cuts and so forth to review with them in our film session.

If you are breaking down an opponent's film, that is somewhat tougher. I always try to see them live at least once. Then, I will take the tape and watch it once through, without making any notes. I just watch the game and let certain things stand out. I'm looking for "what meets the eye" first...general tendancies, formations, favorite plays, etc. Then, I go through and record data the same way that I do for our own offense. That way, you can break down tendancies based on down, distance, field position, favorite running backs, favorite holes they run, and so forth. Finally, I watch it again and diagram every one of their base plays as exactly as I can, including every blocking assignment. We put this in a scout report and use it to coach our scout team. Most of our defense is designed around reacting to blocking paths of the offensive linemen, so we must be fairly accurate in our scouting methods.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you need any further details.

bigcat Member Posts: 63	Breaking down game tape Dec 18, 2003 11:27:51 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bigcat on Dec 18, 2003 11:27:51 GMT I would love to know more. My email at school is awilloughby@ftpayk12.org and at home it's will9216@bellsouth.net Thanks

bigcat Member Posts: 63	Breaking down game tape Dec 18, 2003 12:51:19 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bigcat on Dec 18, 2003 12:51:19 GMT Do you have any forms in a word format you could email me?

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Breaking down game tape Dec 19, 2003 6:06:02 GMT

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Post by pdow27 on Dec 19, 2003 6:06:02 GMT

Coach -

When scouting a defense, I will first watch a tape to try to identify their base defense in terms of front and coverage. I will attempt to get a feel for their blitz/stunt philosophy as well. I don't chart every single defensive play...I will chart their 3rd down and long yardage tendencies as well as their red zone and goal line defenses. I will also study their personnel hard to see who are their best and weakest players. I will then diagram their various fronts/coverages against our formations based on what we've seen on tape and will also document their blitz/stunt packages....we then break our offensive plays down against these defenses and get our blocking assignments, route adjustments, audibles, etc. down. Because of what we run offensively, we often face a defensive scheme that we didn't see on tape, so we must adjust in the game. Most of what I do is devise our offensive weekly scheme to present formations or motions that they may not be prepared for. pdow

coach_pfh
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Breaking down game tape Dec 19, 2003 11:32:13 GMT

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Post by coach_pfh on Dec 19, 2003 11:32:13 GMT

pdow27,

What offense do you run? We run the spread and we have to prepare for pretty much everything. If we get two tapes from our opponent and they are against wing t teams it really doesn't do us any good scheme wise. Do you run into the same problem?

pdow27
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Breaking down game tape Dec 19, 2003 16:08:07 GMT

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Post by pdow27 on Dec 19, 2003 16:08:07 GMT

Coach -

Like you, we run a spread offense (2x2; 3x1; 3x2)....yes, we run into the same problem. We copy every single tape that we exchange throughout the year, therefore, with the exception of the early season games,we have a pretty good library of game tape of our upcoming opponent. If the exchange tapes don't show much, I will look at previously copied game tape or even go back to the previous year (if their coaching staff is the same)...if I still don't have a good picture of the opponent, I will predict what they will run based on their front....i.e., if they have been playing wing-T teams and using an even front type defense, I will concentrate on various defensive structures based out of a 40 front. Sometimes, you have to devise your definite game plan on game day during the 1st quarter...pdow

Coach 'Em Up
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Breaking down game tape Dec 20, 2003 6:42:09 GMT

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Post by Coach 'Em Up on Dec 20, 2003 6:42:09 GMT

Coach,

We run into the same problem you do by being a spread team in a run dominated area. It's tough to get a good look on your scout films. What I've found though, is there's probably someone in your area or even your league who does run a similar spread type offense who has the same problem and would love to trade with you (above and beyond the norm). We have one other team that incorporates a lot of the same formations as we do, and I trade with them for 5-6 of our 8 regular season games even though our league rules require only 2. I've gotten to know this coach quite well through all state meetings, clinics, summer camps, etc. and even though we play in the same conference, we both understand that this is the best way to get a good breakdown. You talk about "old school". Nothing is more old school than getting to know your coaching peers and doing a little old fashioned horse trading. By the way, I'm only 35 myself.

Isaiah 40:31

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Post by bigcat on Dec 18, 2003 9:21:05 GMT

Post by lochness on Dec 18, 2003 9:46:20 GMT

Post by bigcat on Dec 18, 2003 11:27:51 GMT

Post by bigcat on Dec 18, 2003 12:51:19 GMT

Post by pdow27 on Dec 19, 2003 6:06:02 GMT

Post by coach_pfh on Dec 19, 2003 11:32:13 GMT

Post by pdow27 on Dec 19, 2003 16:08:07 GMT

Post by Coach 'Em Up on Dec 20, 2003 6:42:09 GMT

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