Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison

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Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison Jan 9, 2004 19:03:11 GMT

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Post by CoachKramer on Jan 9, 2004 19:03:11 GMT

We run the Gangster Pass out of double slot and speed option action. Does anyone run the Gangster and Backside Gangster like Tiger Ellison ran it? Are you running it from spread, slot, or wing? Do the hot reads on the fly work? Are they productive? Do you have any hints as to how to make it work? I am looking to network as the play has really been good for us and I would like to keep perfecting it.

fbf3502 Junior Member Posts: 2	Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison Jan 9, 2004 21:59:48 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by fbf3502 on Jan 9, 2004 21:59:48 GMT Coach, I would love to hear more on how you run your Gangster pass or any info you could help with we run a double slot formation that we are having trouble with a consistant passing game. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

tm Member Posts: 142	Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison Jan 10, 2004 10:27:04 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by tm on Jan 10, 2004 10:27:04 GMT Coach: What's the "Gangster" pass? tm

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Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison Jan 10, 2004 14:59:00 GMT

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Post by CoachKramer on Jan 10, 2004 14:59:00 GMT

To put it simply the gangster pass is a sprint out pass that involes hot reads by the QB, Slot, and SE. We run the play out of double slot and speed option play action with short motion by our backside slot. Our qb and playside slot read ilb to olb and if either blitzes they both adjust on the fly/hot read. Reads then proceed to our se read on the corner to safety. Our fb seals de for sprint out. Qb has the option to pass or run the option with our backside slot.

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Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison Jan 13, 2004 8:39:20 GMT

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Post by gawntrail on Jan 13, 2004 8:39:20 GMT

This 'gangster pass' sounds a lot like what Tom Osbourne put in at Nebraska for Turner Gill, and then resurrected it later for Tommy Frazier. It appears you have taken this one step further with the two pass reads. Am I on the right track or is this something different?

NFL films did a 'Classics' piece on the West Coast Offense play 'Sprint Right Option'. This is the very play Joe Montana hits Dwight Clark in the back of the endzone to culminate 'The Drive'. This resembles your 'gangster pass', but 'option' means to option read the flat defender. I saw Bowling Green run a hybrid of these two plays. Josh Harris rolls and looks at his flat read and if those two 'options' are not available he shuffles the ball (option type pitch forward) to the back tracking off of the DE seal block.

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stick Senior Member Posts: 276	Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison Jan 14, 2004 9:14:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by stick on Jan 14, 2004 9:14:05 GMT Coach Kramer, Could you elaborate on what exactly you teach your WR's and QB to read and their adjustments? This play is very intriguing. Thanks

CoachKramer Member Posts: 140	Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison Jan 15, 2004 11:04:47 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by CoachKramer on Jan 15, 2004 11:04:47 GMT Stick email me amd I will give you a full description. rkramer@poland-hs.u29.k12.me.us

gunman Member Posts: 24	Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison Jan 27, 2004 15:53:58 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by gunman on Jan 27, 2004 15:53:58 GMT Coach are you using the same line blocking as Ellison or are you using something different? Are you running the Fly or Jet Sweep series. If you are do you veer block for the dive back or zone block?

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Gangster pass From Tiger Ellison Jan 28, 2004 16:44:29 GMT

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Post by CoachKramer on Jan 28, 2004 16:44:29 GMT

Our run game features triple, Zone Dive, and Speed Options. We block essentially by Ellisons rules on our three step and backside of our play action passes. All our blocking looks like run. When we run speed option action/sprint out passing we aggressively hinge on the BS and our FS linemen complete a short-goob Gap On Over Backer with the tackle giving the EMOL a nudge to the outside and seals back inside in an effort to look like oue speed option. Our FB seals/washes the EMOL inside as the QB enters his sprint out steps. We establish speed option and use Gangster to keep them guessing. We do not run Fly/Jet, although I am interested in how the play would work as a base for the gangster pass. We hang our hats midline, veer, and speed option as our run game.

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