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I spent time at the WVU campus and also have a copy of their "Odd Stack" video. My question to you coaches is how many of you use the gap, base, and pull principles to adjust to formations?
This forum is awesome! I have sat back and taken it all in for a while, but now it is time to type!
Don't know what is the best way on 3 x 1 but this is what we did. On the 1 reciever side we checked to man and played it. On the three reciever side we played cover three. Corner had normal alignment, Stinger was head up # 2, Sam had inside leverage on #3. Winger was free to blitz which he often did, or in a definite passing situation, we bailed him at the snap to be an extra deep defender. Depending on the width of #3, we could be left with 5 in the box which we don't like to do. If we ever got quads we would send the Winger over. More than one way to skin a cat, though. What do you other guys like? We see alot of 3,4,5 wide stuff and are always looking for ideas.
We probably play as much man (0,1) as zone (cover 3). This was not by choice, but do to the fact we are so much smaller and weaker than our opponents. If playing 3, we would stem the FS, Rob/Lou LB, and Spur enough to where you could not tell we were outnumbered vs a 3x1 formation. We felt like Rob/Lou could cheat out a little and still play his run responsibility.
I guess the biggest reason for us not adjusting was because nobody in our league made us respect a 3x1 formation.
corner and safety are deep 1/3 the stinger to that side plays the flats the other stinger is free (we'll check their tendencies and align him from there)
Guys who bring their spur/stinger over, would you do the same thing if you had a 3x1 with three receivers to one side and a tight end to the one reciever side.
I'm assuming this coverage is with the open side spur rolled over top?
To simplify that- a guy could use cover 4 principles. I ran this coverage when I ran my 4-3 package -- against Twin sets though. I just drew this up againts trips open vs 3-5 and it looks feasible. Substitute corner for Spur if there is TE backside.
Simple--Two DBs watch need only know man coverage, and two Dbs react to one of two actions of one receiver.
1. Backside corner-- man on SE
2. Trips side C --- man on #1
3. Trips side Spur watch #2- any out rout jump him, if he goes verticle, drop to flat. He is the "outside dropper"
4. FS-- watch #2. Jump verticle route (or deep curl- anything past 12yds) . Any out rout- rob #1 (curl, post-- help Corner)
5. Rolled Spur--- play any receiver that breaks to his alley- (deep middle 1/3 or rob dig route)
You have all of the verts covered and still have a force player while keeping your core intact.
This looks like it could be hurt by a smash route though. I have something else for that. (Just have to scout the Offense)
I think this is simple (or simpler) and effective.
I know this is coverage can be done if it is something that is needed. We did not need it this year.
Seeing how I am also learning each day on this defense, I can repeat what I was told by the OC at Wofford: "You better have a plan against trips in the 3-3-5"
Knowing how we got away with being outnumbered in cover 3 vs trips (we did not pull), I can believe his statement because we were not ready for an adjustment other than to stem with LB, Spur, and FS to make it look like we matched up. I am also assuming there are other reasons that I do not know yet, but definitely give this guy the benefit of the doubt!
I faced a team a few years back that threw the ball probably 70%. When I was in cover three they would roll out an drun a variety of layered routs that pushed my corner deep and occupied the corner in the flat. They would hit the intermediate rout that was usually a hang.... 15 yard out or a curl in the behind the hook/curl zones or some other combination with their receivers.... (smash routs and other combos) It is fairly difficult to have a high school kid be disciplined enough to not zero in on the routs underneith him in his flat zone and play high to low. Trips can pose a significant threat by using many different combo routs to occupy defenders in their assigned zones to get one receiver open in some spot in between the zones. I've added coverages that layer defenders on the trips side, or are combo coverages that are part man and part zone. I think straight cover 3 can get hurt with good passing teams that run three receivers to one side.
I put the adjustments GAP and PULL into my playbook just to have them in my pocket. I was not planning on using them after reading many of the coaches here. However I plan on using the "PULL" call in two situations now after watching some WVU defensive film. Pittsburg University lined up in what some may call open Treys formation (3 rec with TE being the #3) and a SE on the one rec. side. WV was in their BASE front and didn't have a "PUll" call on so their Rob LB was stacked behind the End. Spur was out on #2. The Ace back took the hand off and attacked the B gap--- Rob LB's responsibility. Rob stepped up, the End was collapsed by the TE and the back bounced it outside where there was no contain..... FS and Spur converged after a 8-10 gain. Pittsburg did it more than once getting good yardage off of it most times.
I can see where a strong Veer with an Ace back could exploit this also. But really only out of two formations.... The Treys formation (with TE on that 3 rec side) or any other Trips formation with a tight wing. I think that all of the down blocks can seal in the End, and L/R if they are playing their base gaps.
I think that I am going to have a "PULL" call on for those two formations only so that my Rob or Lou now has D gap responsibility, Mike has B gap the backside L/R and Nose have the A gaps and the backside Spur has the C gap. I don't think a guy would have to call "PULL" with no TE unless he is really concerned about their opponent's Trips passing package.
Of course I would only use this out of the BASE front.
Any suggestions on the validity of this adjustment?
I agree. We started using this half way through last season. We started to see SE over with a TE/Wing. This is one adjustment we used. We started using this because we were having trouble stopping the belly. Our spur would get kicked, end sealed, and R/L sealed by the wing. Our FS was inexperienced and wasn't filling fast enough. Luckily, he has some experience now. Also, now we're going to try and bounce this play with our spurs rather than contain it. Live and learn. What do you think?