Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I was thinking of running a midline-like option against the 50 defense. What I planned on doing was optioning the 5 technique and running the dive back out of splitbacks instead of the "I". Is this what they refer to as an "Inside Veer"? I want to run it like the midline, but I don't want to be locked into giving to the FB on every play because of the 5 technique, so I figured that if we were in split backs, the DT in a 5 tech is about the same distance from the dive back as the DT in a 3 tech would be to the "I" fullback.
Is this reasonable? Are there any problems with this or is there a better way to run it? I'm not as knowledgable on option football as I am on other aspects, but I am seeing the value of it. I'd like to do something like this next season.
What you are describing is the inside veer. The only concern is that your QB be ready to pitch very soon after the ride, because the 9 tech DE usually comes at the QB hard, and if he is not ready the DE will cause alot of problems.
Thanks for your reply. What about blocking the DE with our TE and having the read be soley a give / keep read with the keep path at C-Gap (outside the 5 technique)? I'm not really wild about running veer options per se, where we're asking the QB to make a pitch read.
We ran the midline vs. a 50 and we had great success, but we had to rep the heck out of it. Actually, we averaged more yards per play on midline vs. a 50 than vs. an even front with a 3 tech. We based the nose with our center. We released the frontside guard and tackle, with the PST on the Playside backer, and the PSG tracking backside backer to FS. The BSG tracked BSLB to FS as well. The TE based the 9 tech. The QB read the 5 tech for his give keep. We had the TB lead up on the Strong Safety vs. cover 3. VS cover two, he runs his pitch path and calls ball ball ball. The fullback reads the block on the nose for his path. He still aims at the crack of the center's butt for his mesh path, if he gets the football, he runs off the center's block. If the nose plays to the frontside A gap, the fullback rolls it backside, staying tight to the center. if the nose plays to the weakside A gap, the FB stays on path, slightly working to the playside A gap. It is a great football play vs. a 50 defense. We have our FB at 5 to 5.5 yards so he can get a good read on the center's block on the nose. I will be in Atlantic City speaking on the option game, and I will get in depth on running midline vs. the 50 defense because we had so much success with it.
You mentioned that verse Cover III, you "had the TB lead up on the Strong Safety." Which path did he take to get to the Strong Safety?
Great idea coach...about deepening your TB verse a 50 front. I never thought about that. Not only does it help the FB read the Nose Guard, but I'm guessing it also gives the PST a split second more to get to the Playside LB.
Just a couple of more questions in regards to running the midline verse the 50 front: 1) What were your lineman's splits? 2) Did you ever run the "Jill scheme" (TE/PST combo fold block) verse this front?
As far as the strong safety, the TB went through the B gap, and led the QB. Then we had him take his release outside as if he was going to run his pitch path, and got downhill quick to get on the SS. There was no difference either way. Vs. cover 2, we usually got the playside safety flying up on him for pitch, so the QB could run free.
Our splits are 2 to 2.5 feet. On midline we might widen the guard and tackle a couple inches more to create more space inside. We wanted to see what the DT's rule was. How far would he follow us out to get in his technique? We never went more than 3 feet with a split.
DJ We have had success with the "Jill" fold scheme against a 50 front. We run midline out of a Flexbone look (2 WB, 2 SE). We see an awful lot of 5-3 Cover 3 against our balanced set, with the DT in a 4 tech and DE head up or outside shade of the WB. We use the PST to fan block the DE and fold the WB behind on the PS backer. The WB is taught to treat the blocking as an iso type play. This means if the PS backer closes down hard to the hole, the WB will wash him inside. If the PS backer stays outside to stay on the pitch man, the WB can kick him out.
DJ We have had success with the "Jill" fold scheme against a 50 front. We run midline out of a Flexbone look (2 WB, 2 SE). We see an awful lot of 5-3 Cover 3 against our balanced set, with the DT in a 4 tech and DE head up or outside shade of the WB. We use the PST to fan block the DE and fold the WB behind on the PS backer. The WB is taught to treat the blocking as an iso type play. This means if the PS backer closes down hard to the hole, the WB will wash him inside. If the PS backer stays outside to stay on the pitch man, the WB can kick him out.
DJ We have had success with the "Jill" fold scheme against a 50 front. We run midline out of a Flexbone look (2 WB, 2 SE). We see an awful lot of 5-3 Cover 3 against our balanced set, with the DT in a 4 tech and DE head up or outside shade of the WB. C and PSG Ace combo the nose to Middle backer. The fullback path is modified to be the outside hip of the center as opposed to straight up his butt. We use the PST to fan block the DE and fold the WB behind on the PS backer. The WB is taught to treat the blocking as an iso type play. This means if the PS backer closes down hard to the hole, the WB will wash him inside. If the PS backer stays outside to stay on the pitch man, the WB can kick him out.
DJ We have had success with the "Jill" fold scheme against a 50 front. We run midline out of a Flexbone look (2 WB, 2 SE). We see an awful lot of 5-3 Cover 3 against our balanced set, with the DT in a 4 tech and DE head up or outside shade of the WB. C and PSG Ace combo the nose to Middle backer. The fullback path is modified to be the outside hip of the center as opposed to straight up his butt. We use the PST to fan block the DE and fold the WB behind on the PS backer. The WB is taught to treat the blocking as an iso type play. This means if the PS backer closes down hard to the hole, the WB will wash him inside. If the PS backer stays outside to stay on the pitch man, the WB can kick him out.
DJ We have had success with the "Jill" fold scheme against a 50 front. We run midline out of a Flexbone look (2 WB, 2 SE). We see an awful lot of 5-3 Cover 3 against our balanced set, with the DT in a 4 tech and DE head up or outside shade of the WB. C and PSG Ace combo the nose to Middle backer. The fullback path is modified to be the outside hip of the center as opposed to straight up his butt. We use the PST to fan block the DE and fold the WB behind on the PS backer. The WB is taught to treat the blocking as an iso type play. This means if the PS backer closes down hard to the hole, the WB will wash him inside. If the PS backer stays outside to stay on the pitch man, the WB can kick him out.
DJ We have had success with the "Jill" fold scheme against a 50 front. We run midline out of a Flexbone look (2 WB, 2 SE). We see an awful lot of 5-3 Cover 3 against our balanced set, with the DT in a 4 tech and DE head up or outside shade of the WB. C and PSG Ace combo the nose to Middle backer. The fullback path is modified to be the outside hip of the center as opposed to straight up his butt. We use the PST to fan block the DE and fold the WB behind on the PS backer. The WB is taught to treat the blocking as an iso type play. This means if the PS backer closes down hard to the hole, the WB will wash him inside. If the PS backer stays outside to stay on the pitch man, the WB can kick him out.