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Option Coach
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Getting the ball to the Perimeter Feb 4, 2004 9:40:38 GMT

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Post by Option Coach on Feb 4, 2004 9:40:38 GMT

I want to here what some of your thoughts are on the best way to get the ball to the perimeter. We're a multiple option team, mostly triple, but we also run several double options. We adhere to the idea that if there's no alley player, we want to get the ball out there. We run from a Twins Open look, so when we run the veer, the DE is our dive read. What we end up with is a dive read 90% of the time, with the occassional QB keep. There are times where I want the ball in the hands of our running back out there in the alley. We run the speed option, but I like the dive action to hold the LBs. Any ideas on getting the ball outside are appreciated.

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LedgerSko Senior Member Posts: 316	Getting the ball to the Perimeter Feb 5, 2004 10:22:01 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by LedgerSko on Feb 5, 2004 10:22:01 GMT Bubble Screen to the twins if they only send one defender over to cover them.
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pdow27 Senior Member Posts: 255	Getting the ball to the Perimeter Feb 5, 2004 20:07:36 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by pdow27 on Feb 5, 2004 20:07:36 GMT Coach - you might consider the freeze option....presents a midline/inside trap look with a pitch off the DE or outside invert depending on alignment. Great play when combined with the inside trap and/or midline option. pdow

Option Coach
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Getting the ball to the Perimeter Feb 9, 2004 13:15:26 GMT

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Post by Option Coach on Feb 9, 2004 13:15:26 GMT

I have looked into the freeze option, and I like it. I have lots of Syracuse stuff on the option, but I noticed that when they have to log block a 5 technique, they end up cutting him alot. Where I coach, linemen are only allowed to cut on their initial movement. Then I started thinking, why pull a BSG to log block a 3 tech, (if cutting him is not an option), when the PSG has a much better chance of simply reach blocking him? I know we won't get the additional benefit of making the midline trap look the same as our midline option, but it will be easier to execute. Besides, I don't think there are many high school DTs who squeeze the trap real well, or at least where I coach. We see mostly penetrating types of defenses that almost invite the trap. We're going to use the midline action to do a number of things. Midline dive, midline trap, double option (dive or QB keep, QB keep or pitch), and midline triple.

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Getting the ball to the Perimeter Feb 9, 2004 17:03:58 GMT

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Post by mg on Feb 9, 2004 17:03:58 GMT

Coach, If the defense is running up field there isn't a reason to get the ball to the perimeter. The shortest distance between two points is a straight line. You can run the freeze option into this look with what Syracuse calls the five call. This is to the open side. The tackle and guard combo the three tech to the lb. You still pull the backside guard and log if the de crashes or turn up for teh lb/pursuit. Then your qb will pitch off the d-end. This is also beneficial because youcan use the same blocking scheme for the play action pass. Lead option and toss are the only other true ways to get the ball in the TB's hand.

clipper coach Member Posts: 59	Getting the ball to the Perimeter Feb 25, 2004 11:44:06 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clipper coach on Feb 25, 2004 11:44:06 GMT Option Coach, We run a flip play. Out of the Wishbone, have the QB turn adn toss it to the PSHB who is already sprinting out to the 8/9 hole. Hits quick; should have a speedy kid run it.
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Getting the ball to the Perimeter Mar 3, 2004 17:03:22 GMT

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Post by goachgjy on Mar 3, 2004 17:03:22 GMT

Option coach:

I have been going through the same line of reasoning as you have- I think we are better off doubling the 3 tech with guard and tackle and comboing up to the mike who is being held with the midline fake as opposed to logging the three. Last year we ran more veer but it seems like you can run more option combinations from the midline action as you described and the QB has more time to read than he does on the Veer. I am wondering if you run veer also and if so how much?
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Option Coach
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Getting the ball to the Perimeter Mar 4, 2004 6:54:20 GMT

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Post by Option Coach on Mar 4, 2004 6:54:20 GMT

Coach:

Last year we decided to go out of split backs with no tight ends and just run inside veer. The problem was the 3 tech. No matter how nice it looked on paper, a stubborn DT can effectively clog up the B gap. For this reason, (and because neither of our halfbacks-no matter how good they were as I-backs-had the requisite FB mentality to be a dive back) we went back to the I formation (found a FB) and installed the midline. We still run inside veer, its a great play against a base 50 defense, and next year we will continue to run both. Our QB had big games with both. Sit and read DEs (who are less likely to bite on the dive back) are vunerable to our midline because its an easy turn out block for the tackle. But then, there's nothing more satisfying than seeing our QB read the veer, pull it against that aggressive DE, and come around the corner and up the option alley. I will install the veer first (because I think it is the harder of the two to learn and master) but we have more plays that we can run off of the basic midline action.

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Post by Option Coach on Feb 4, 2004 9:40:38 GMT

Post by LedgerSko on Feb 5, 2004 10:22:01 GMT

Post by pdow27 on Feb 5, 2004 20:07:36 GMT

Post by Option Coach on Feb 9, 2004 13:15:26 GMT

Post by mg on Feb 9, 2004 17:03:58 GMT

Post by clipper coach on Feb 25, 2004 11:44:06 GMT

Post by goachgjy on Mar 3, 2004 17:03:22 GMT

Post by Option Coach on Mar 4, 2004 6:54:20 GMT

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