Outside veer from the I formation

You're right about the angle, it's not as good from the I as the split backs. Here's what I suggest. The idea behind the outside veer is to put a double bind on the DE. Do I take the dive (which is hitting right in front of me), or do I take my normal option responsibility-QB? Most teams use a double team with the TE and the playside tackle to get the inside seal. But if you remove the TE from the box, not only does the defense have to remove one defender, they reduce the front. Now instead of a 3 and 7 or 9 technique, you have a 3 and 5 technique. You still get a double team at the point of attack (guard and tackle), you still put the defensive end in a double bind, but most importantly, you get an angle for your fullback. Just a thought.

Mg,

How often do you get the pull read for your QB?

assuming that you are running the play to an open side versus a three and a five tech., other than the fb's path, what is the difference between the outside veer and the inside veer. Also, same question about running the play to the tight side against a 4-3 defense with a three tech and an end on the outside shoulder of the tight end?

Option coach,
I disagree. The outside veer to us is the aiming point of the fb, not wehter ther is a tight end in the game or not.. If he is aiming a gap plus over(inside foot of the tackle) It is a different read for the defensive end. Even with no tight end. If the defensive end does not come down right now the fb is into the secondary. If he crashes the qb is on the perimeter right now. It hits quicker than the inside veer. The other good thing about it is you don't have to combo the three tech and teach your backs how to bounce outside the double. We can sit here and argue that it isn't outside veer because there is no tightend, but the footwork by the qb and fulback, and the blocking by the line, and the read of the qb is all outside veer, even without the tight end. Seems to me it must be outside veer. I repeat, it has been a great complement to our inside and midline from three wides.

We never even attempted to put this play in. One day four years ago, our qb saw out of our three wides set that the five tech to the two receiver side was wide. He checked to outside veer. I asked him why he did it and he said that with the end playing wider he felt the tackle was unconvered and that was our rule, run outside veer to an uncovered tackle. Our scout team defense couldn't stop it and either have many ouf our opponents.

Midline and counter trap.