4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 3, 2004 6:51:34 GMT

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Post by coachstiles on Mar 3, 2004 6:51:34 GMT

Coaches,

Your thoughts and adjustments vs. the wide slot/ backside open/ two back set.
Here's how we cover:
We are a cover 2, double robber scheme. How we play this formation is to squat the single side receiver with the WS corner playing flats and the FS playing 1/2. The WB would match #2 weak. The SS and SC will make an "area" call. They will zone their 1/4 and take 1 and 2 as they break in/out of their quarter. SB will split the difference between the tackle and #2 receiver and "V" drop, searching for crosser/rerouting verts. Mike has 1st inside. (#3)

Our philosophy is not be dictated by the offense to roll to cover three, any thoughts?

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 3, 2004 11:25:46 GMT

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Post by coachholtz on Mar 3, 2004 11:25:46 GMT

I think that you are talking about a twins look on one side and a split end on the other, if so this is what we do. We make our front strength call to the twins side and let our sam sit protected between the #2 rec. and the takcle. We play what we call cover 8, 2 on the twins side, 4 on the other (2x4=8), our sams rule is what we call 3 match, if 3 runs a route play him man. We did this so if we got motion we could check to a cover 3. Our secondary rules that I came up with are very simple. If we call zone our secondary will get in a coverage based upon the number of quicks (non TE recievers) on their respective side.

1 quick= Cover 4
2 Quicks=Cover 2
3 Quicks=Cover 3
4 Quicks=Time out usually.

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 3, 2004 14:48:22 GMT

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Post by Coach Joe on Mar 3, 2004 14:48:22 GMT

Coachholtz,

What made you decide on playing cover 2 to a two quick receiver side and quarters to a one quick receiver side?

If one of the twins receivers motioned to the other side to create twins on the other side you are saying you would check to a cover 3 or stay in the same coverage?

thanks

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 4, 2004 6:00:39 GMT

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Post by coachholtz on Mar 4, 2004 6:00:39 GMT

We decided to play cover two on the twins side because I felt that it enabled our sam linebacker to pretty much just play run. If they run motion we would check into a cover 3. Our coverage rules apply to initial alignments, motion adjustments are gameplanned.

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 4, 2004 6:01:30 GMT

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Post by coachholtz on Mar 4, 2004 6:01:30 GMT

We decided to play cover two on the twins side because I felt that it enabled our sam linebacker to pretty much just play run. If they run motion we would check into a cover 3. Our coverage rules apply to initial alignments, motion adjustments are gameplanned.

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 22, 2004 20:23:25 GMT

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Post by Oskie43 on Mar 22, 2004 20:23:25 GMT

Coach Holtz,

I have used the same type of philosophy, but somewhat opposite of yours. If I have 1 quick receiver then I want a more aggressive coverage to stop the run (ie.. Cover 2). If I have 2 quick receivers then because of two potential vertical threats we check to cover 4 to avoid giving up a big play in the passing game. I'm not saying mine is better - I just found it interesting that we were basically opposite in this approach.

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 23, 2004 5:56:27 GMT

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Post by coachholtz on Mar 23, 2004 5:56:27 GMT

Oskie,
We probably teach and play our coverages alittle different, but it's the same idea. We play 4 to a 1 quick side with the corner in inside leverage at 7, and the safety at 10 and reading the same thing as our will. We basically have the corner playing man on any and all routes except for a slant. Our cover 4 safeties are run players. I assume there is a difference in how we play 2. We play our corners in outside leverage at 7 yards deep and they will bail on the snap reading the number 1 receiver. OUr cover two is actually more like a cover 3 banjo type coverage. If both go vertical, we go vertical. I dont know. We play our best two players at safety and let them come down hill with very little pass responsibility.

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 23, 2004 11:27:44 GMT

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Post by Coach Joe on Mar 23, 2004 11:27:44 GMT

Coach Holtz can you explain your cover 2 corner and saftey techniques? Are you playing more of a 2 read coverage? For example if #2 goes to the flat or breaks off of his route outside at under 10 yards the corner plays him, and the saftey goes to the #1 guy?

Or is it like a cover 2 invert where the corners are like deep half players and the safties are flar players/robbers?

thanks

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 26, 2004 6:20:59 GMT

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Post by coachholtz on Mar 26, 2004 6:20:59 GMT

Our cover two rules are pretty much exactly how you said. Both the safety (12 yards) and the corner (7 yards outside leverage) will creep backwards and read #2. If #2 comes to the flat anytime within about 10 yards the corner will break off to the flat and the safety will jump number one. If they both go vertical we play man. In our scheme the sam linebacker or SS in certain sets plays what we call a 3 match technique. If three releases he plays him man. If #3 doesn't release we tell him to try and hit #2 if he is going vertical and work towards the flat, or help the hole (curl by #1) if #2 goes to the flat. Alot of people try to run smash routes against us. We try to teach the corner to take away the corner route by dropping into the hole and tackling the hitch route.

Superchief Senior Member Posts: 270	4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 26, 2004 7:04:46 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Superchief on Mar 26, 2004 7:04:46 GMT coachholtz: Can you give a more detailed explantion of the 3 MATCH TECHNIQUE, as well as under what situiations you use it? Thanks...

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2 Mar 26, 2004 9:15:45 GMT

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Post by coachholtz on Mar 26, 2004 9:15:45 GMT

Keep in mind this whole topic started about how we would play a twins flex look with two backs in the backfield.

On the twins side we would have a 3 tech, a 6 tech., and a Sam backer lined up a 4 yards width depending on the width of the inside reciever in the twins.

Sam is protected from having to play the flat because we are in Cover 2 on that side of the field. OUr 3 match rules for sam are as follows:

If #3 comes out to your side: play him man to man.
If he doesn't: read #2 to find out where to drop.
If two goes vertical, try and hit him, then work to the flat to help tackle a hitch(smash), or get under a deep out(comeback)
If two goes to the flat redirect your eyes to #1 and help the safety with any inside route. So basically you are going to drop almost straight back to get under a curl by #1.

If we get a twins look with a stub tight end on the back, our SS will rotate up to a cover 3 look OLB and play the same technique that the sam did.

I like it primarily for this reason. Sam can pretty much play run.

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4-3 Adjustment vs. wide slot/backside open/2 back set (2

Post by coachstiles on Mar 3, 2004 6:51:34 GMT

Post by coachholtz on Mar 3, 2004 11:25:46 GMT

Post by Coach Joe on Mar 3, 2004 14:48:22 GMT

Post by coachholtz on Mar 4, 2004 6:00:39 GMT

Post by coachholtz on Mar 4, 2004 6:01:30 GMT

Post by Oskie43 on Mar 22, 2004 20:23:25 GMT

Post by coachholtz on Mar 23, 2004 5:56:27 GMT

Post by Coach Joe on Mar 23, 2004 11:27:44 GMT

Post by coachholtz on Mar 26, 2004 6:20:59 GMT

Post by Superchief on Mar 26, 2004 7:04:46 GMT

Post by coachholtz on Mar 26, 2004 9:15:45 GMT

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