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Old Mule
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Inside Zone ?? Mar 10, 2004 15:46:49 GMT

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Post by Old Mule on Mar 10, 2004 15:46:49 GMT

No TE, single back inside zone, facing a 3 and 5 playside, 4i and shade backside.
Mike playing strongside shade at about 3-5 yards.

Question: Does the shade get treated like a weak 1 tech. with the OC zoning toward the 3 tech.?
If so, has anyone had trouble with the backside guard zoning the shade?

Or does the BSG & OC combo the shade to Mike?

The reason it is confusing to me is the uncovered/covered rule of head-up/playside gap.

Thanks.
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Inside Zone ?? Mar 11, 2004 3:54:30 GMT

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Post by Coachjd on Mar 11, 2004 3:54:30 GMT

Coach,

the ps guard will base reach the 3 tech and the center and bs guard will zone combo to the mike. The center is covered and the backside guard is uncovered so your rule is ok for them. The PS guard will be put on an island, but needs to shorten his first step incase the 3 tech slants inside. He has no inside help vs this front.

JD

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Inside Zone ?? Mar 14, 2004 18:40:33 GMT

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Post by Old Mule on Mar 14, 2004 18:40:33 GMT

Coach JD,
Thanks. It makes more sense now. You seem to have a good handle on the Zone, so here's another question I'm wondering about.

At the high school level, many coaches that I've talked with, do not teach the bucket step and/or drop step. They say it's not practical for this level. Their covered players still get on track but the 1st step is a down hill step aiming for outisde frame of defender. Their uncovered players aim for near hip of playside defender. Their reasoning is: less athletic ability, quicker vertical push on 1st level, and do not like to lose ground to gain ground.

I'm looking at installing Zone this year and just trying to get as many ideas and opinions as I can.
Right now I like the drop step concept, but am not sold on the bucket step for high school level.

Would appreciate your thoughts/expertise on this. Thanks in advance.

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Inside Zone ?? Mar 15, 2004 7:53:56 GMT

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Post by coachchad on Mar 15, 2004 7:53:56 GMT

I heard the Oklahoma run coordinator give a talk on their inside zone play.

They tend to want everyone going playside rather than turning the combos backside. For example, the backside one tech. would get driven past the hole by the backside guard. The center will never turn back to help him. Even on a nose guard, the center moves past him and the backside guard is expected to run him out of the hole. I think this would make holes a lot easier for the runningback at the high school level.
Curious to see if anybody else runs it this way.

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Inside Zone ?? Mar 15, 2004 13:45:51 GMT

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Post by Coachjd on Mar 15, 2004 13:45:51 GMT

Coach,

We do not bucket step with our line at the high school level. We slide step or lateral step. We do teach the bucket step with the backside tackle only on an 1 tech on the bs guard. We feel if he loses a little ground it will be easier for him to get over to the farside number of the 1 tech so the guard can come off on scrape lber.

Good luck.

JD

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ewoop Junior Member Posts: 1	Inside Zone ?? Mar 16, 2004 9:05:15 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by ewoop on Mar 16, 2004 9:05:15 GMT Never run the inside zone to a 3 technique. Always run it to the "bubble" where the shade is at.

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Inside Zone ?? Mar 16, 2004 16:52:49 GMT

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Post by Coachjd on Mar 16, 2004 16:52:49 GMT

We make a living running to a 3 tech! Why not? please give me your reasons so I can see where you are going with this. Out of all the fronts we see, there is only one front that the 3 tech is going to be a solo base reach by the ps guard. That is when we have a 3 tech and a weak shade. We run zone vs this front with very good success. When the lbers start to run to the playside we will run tackle trap with the back taking the ball like it is zone but he will cut back and follow the pulling tackle.

Look forward to your reply.

Thanks, JD

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Inside Zone ?? Mar 23, 2004 11:14:47 GMT

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Post by Coach Joe on Mar 23, 2004 11:14:47 GMT

I agree don't limit yourself to running only inside zone to a 1 or 2i technique. If it is gonna be a big part of your offense you should be able to run it against all fronts. You don't have to get alot of movement on the 3 tech. , just cover him up and take him where he wants to go, and most of the time the guard will have help from the center if the 3 tech is slanting inside. Or you could just make the aiming point for the back a little tighter, maybe A gap instead of B gap, so there is a better chance of a cutback.

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