Post by Wolfpack coach on Mar 16, 2004 5:47:07 GMT
We ran Pro-I offense last year, looking to install Wing-T series to take advantage of personnel. What are your thoughts on abandoning the pro offense (iso, toss, power, etc) and sticking to the standard Wing-t plays versus trying to "gel" the offenses together and run both types of offense? We are very limited in teaching time (no spring ball, etc) and cannot overload players this season.
Post by Wolfpack coach on Mar 22, 2004 3:00:22 GMT
Thanks for the reply. In speaking with another coach, he emphasized the "mixing" of both offenses. His reason was that when he faced a pressure defense with 9 in the box, he needed to go to a "vertical" game, and Wing-T was too "horizontal." I don't like this plan either. The whole reason we are going to the wing T is to take advantage of our personnel and the philosophy fits us better, going back to pro puts us at a disadvantage. What's the wing-T answer to OLB's coming hard out of a "G up" front, or what looks like a 6-2, with the FS playing 8 yards deep and secondary in man coverage?
Wing-t will fit the personnel of ANY program. Anybody can run it and have success as long as they pay great attention to detail and their kids completely understand the concepts. I wish you luck in entering our Wing-T cult.
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
One of the biggest things to remember about the wing-t is that it is a complete system. The system is based on getting a block in, a block out, and a lead through at the point of attack.
As far as abandoning your pro offense....you can still run your vertical passing game with the wing-t. We use both 3-step and 5-step passing routes with our wing-t. One of our favorite series is to run out of our "Red" formation (TE/WB to the right....Slot and SE to the left, and motion either the slot to the right, or WB to the left in flat motion, and get into a trips look.
We start each season by teaching the kids one base play per series(bucksweep, power, belly, down, jet, 3 and 5 step). Then each week we add to each series as we see fit based on how the kids are progressing, and what we need for the season.
We have two philosophies....we want each play in a series to look almost exactly the same for the first three steps. This freezes linebackers long enough to get a blocker on them. The next thing is we like to run our base plays out of several different formations.
The beauty of the wing-t is that you can run any style offense from your base depending on your personnel. Anything from west coast passing, to option, to power running....all from the same system.
Just became a wing-T coach this year because I was hired by a wing-T team. So while I am definately not a guru, here's what I have found. The wing T has a "Power" series, the 30s. Also, as you start to look at different plays in the system, they're all there, they just have different names. For example 187 Belly XB can be seen as a Blast play, but the FB is the ballcarrier and the HB is the lead blocker. Just look at how the plays attack the defense and you will see similarities. I would suggest, therefore, that you can run wing-T and still have a power football mentality. I would like to differ from eaglecoach (respectfully) in that I think you would be better off learning/teaching a complete series, e.g., the 20 series, as opposed to using different plays from each series because one of the major benefits of using the Wing-T seems to be the misdirection and ability to attack several spots along the LOS with the same backfield action.
With respect to the passing, I'm not a fan of too many of the standard patterns, however, no one said you can't use some of the vertical game you may have used in the past. Remember that the ability to use PA in this offense is tremendous. A lot of 5 and 7 step patterns time up nicely with the backfield actions. Admittedly, the QB does not have the same amount of time to read the defenders, however, he's usually only reading half the field anyway because of the roll out action used in most of the PA. If you have any background in R&S football, the potential looks great here.
What galdrapann says is similar to our philosophy. While I am not a "wing-t" guy we are going to install the buck series this year. We are a multiple I based team and we run alot of option, but we need the misdirection in the buck series. We already use the wing-t formations (the standard 2-backs and some double wing/slot) to run alot of our other plays so teams cannot key us by that formation. I do have a question about the Buck series though: Could you run it from the I? Everything would be the same for the QB and FB but the TB would now have to jab opposite the call. I am going to play with the concept during the summer and see how it works out.
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