Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Do you think it would be OK to adopt some of their schemes if you didn't have a great center? For example instead of having the center pull against a playside shade he could cut him and then the guard could pull for the backer instead of having the center pull and guard block down. It seems like their center is a great player considering they expect him to pull on the outside zone and also reach block a shade on the inside zone? Kinda similar to what the Vikings do with Matt Birk.
How do they deal with a 2i technique on the inside zone? double him to the backer? what about a backside 3 tech? do they fold or expect the tackle to reach him?
What do they do with the fullback for the inside zone and outside zone?
There is a ton of ways to skin a cat, as long as you get the cat skinned! If your center can cut the 1 tech and your guard can skip pull -- go for it. Since I have been running this offense (4 years) I have always had a center that can pull and get to lbers.
vs a 2I in the inside zone the center and PS guard would zone combo to 2nd level and vs a 3 tech backside the BS guard and bs tackle would zone combo to bs lber. The also make a stay call the the bs guard and tackle will base block man on backside. They will do this when they feel the bs lber is flying across the formation to the ball. Their thinking is their backs are better than the backside lber and even if the lber makes the tackle it is 3-4 yards. They will make this call about 2-3 times a game.
They usually do not run either play out of the I formation. If they do they run the Fullback belly and block inside zone.
"Your work ethic determines your future" Boyd Eply
I take it Minnesota has a different zone scheme than other teams. Could one of you guys briefly explain how it differs from what most people are doing ? Thanks.
It really isn't that different, Their inside zone is blocked pretty much like any inside zone scheme you read about. There is an AFCA article on their inside zone play. The outside zone they take advantage of their athletic linemen by having them pull instead of using the reach and overtake scheme.
Coachjd,
So for the stay call they leave the BSLB unblocked because he will see the backside guard and tackle base block and it will keep him from flowing playside? Do they use this stay call only with a backside 3 tech. or can they use it with a backside shade too?
They make this call 2-3 times a game from the sideline when they see a backside linebacker running over the top of the formation to the zone play. (over aggressive) The call is from the sideline, so it is not base on the defensive alignments.
Their inside zone play is blocked the same as everyone else, it is their stretch play that has become their bread and butter play. I have watched a lot of teams run the down and pull schemes on the stretch play and they do it as well as anyone. It helps that they only have 3-4 run plays. They rep the plays with drills and 1/2 line so much before they ever get to hull or team that it is 2nd nature.
"Your work ethic determines your future" Boyd Eply
Do they go 1 back 2TE and check to the least dangerous force player for their zone plays? Since they don't have a fullback blocking who do they expect to get the force player if it is a saftey?
Do they have any preferences as to when they run inside or outside zone? (defensive tackle techniques, force players)
They are one back 95% of the time. By going one back teams cannot load the box up you unless they want to play cov. 1 or 0. They will go double tight with double flankers to each side and double tight with both flankers on the same side. They do check the inside and outside play according to the fronts and away from a rolled up safety. They do not always check it to a 1 or a 3. It is based on the scouting report on who they feel they can run the ball on. If they are not going to put a safety out on the slot reciever they will run the bubble screen on the defense all day.
They do not package the zone play with the stretch play. It is called in from the sideline and the qb will check the direction they want to run the play. They have been running the stretch play a lot more than the inside zone the past 2-3 years.
"Your work ethic determines your future" Boyd Eply
How do they deal with teams that like to disguise their run support? For example teams that start out in a 2 shell and just before the snap rotate a saftey down into a cover 1/3 look. It becomes tough to determine who is the force player. Also teams who play quarters, do they expect the receivers to block the quarters saftey or do they expect a pulling lineman to get him? Maybe that is a big reason they go 1 back.
What if the d-linemen are head up defenders? do they want the uncovered linemen to downblock or do they want the uncovered linemen pulling while the covered linemen reach/base?
The ps guard will treat a 2 tech the same as a 3 tech. base reach. If the PS tackle is uncovered he will skip pull to the force player, center will pull for the ps lber and the bs guard will leave his 2 tech and either climb to the bs lber or pull to cut off the bs lber and the bs tackle will cut the bs 2 tech.
"Your work ethic determines your future" Boyd Eply
Coach jd do all of the linemen use the skip pull technique? even the center?
Do they always require the backside linemen to cut block the d-lineman over?
Are the linemen responsible for the base/reach looking to actually reach their defenders or reach influence, like for example a weakside stretch the tackle reach influence blocks the 5 tech. and the center pulls inside that block?
Yes all linemen use the skip pull technique. The center will just drop step with the backside foot. He cannot dropstep and gain ground with his first step because the QB is behind him.
Cutting on the backside is the one of the best ways to block a defender that is aligned a man over.
The lineman are going to block the defender on where he wants to go. If he can reach him and seal him inside he will and the center is reading the lber and will press air when he sees the opening. It could be in C gap or B gap. We tell our center, be the running back, you see air press it and hunt the lber.
Hope this helps.
JD
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Getting back to the inside zone play, I know in the past you said that the center will always man block a playside shade, either reaching him or driving him past the hole. Do they ever make an adjustment if the center is getting beat by having the guard help him? Or do they feel this will hinder the guards ability to get to the linebacker because he has to step backside to give the center help?
Yeah with a 3 tech. or a 4i the guard can't help because with the 3 tech he is covered and the 4i he has to help with the tackle right?
I was talking about inside zone weak to a shade and 5 tech or inside zone vs. an underfront (shade, 5, 9). Would you only go to this adjustment if the center was having a hard time blocking the shade? Or is it game planned?
The guard needs to see were his 2nd level defender is at. Lets say you have the weak shade and a 5, the fullback will block the Will Lber and the Mike backer is sitting alinged in Strong side A. (We see this look a lot) The guard can step back to get a zone combo with the center.
If the Mike lber is aligned on or back from the guard he can work back. If his 2nd level defender is outside your guards alignment, then he cannot. The center will attempt to zone reach, but if he can drive him either vertical or horizontal, the back will get the cutback.
JD
"Your work ethic determines your future" Boyd Eply
I watched the Minnesota spring game on Saturday and on their inside zone play they blocked the backside defensive end with the tackle. Is there a call or number of Linebackers that make them do that?
I know this is a post about Minnesota Zone Blocking and I haven't talked football with them, but it is very common for Zone Offenses(such as the STan Zweifel) to make a man call on the backside when their is no inside Lber on their side.
I know this is a post about Minnesota Zone Blocking and I haven't talked football with them, but it is very common for Zone Offenses(such as the STan Zweifel) to make a man call on the backside when their is no inside Lber on their side.