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OLZone
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FULL ZONE Jun 23, 2004 20:44:43 GMT

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Post by OLZone on Jun 23, 2004 20:44:43 GMT

Definitely step playside. The rule that I tell my linemen and everyone is different is to stay on their tracks. Our track on inside is a 45 degree angle. On outside it is a lot wider because we are drop stepping. If you are running the inside zone to a 1 tech. Then the playside guard and center should take their L step and get on their track (45 degree angle). The playside guard will not block the 1tech (because he is not in his track) but he needs to throw a flipper or a punch to give help for the center. Since the C is also L stepping now he is on his track to block the 1 tech and 9 times out of 10 the play will cut back behind him. If you are running the inside zone to a 3 then the playside guard and center still take their L step. Now when the guard take his L step and gets on his track the 3 will be in his track unless he is squeezing but in that case you have the center doing the same exact thing so now he is picking him up. If you have a 5 & 3 squessing the G will pick up the 5 and C on 3. My theory is not to double team in the zone. If you get two guys overly involved on one guy then you are defeating the purpose of a zone block.

Kel_Coach why not use the FB to block the backside E? That way your backside T can release up for LB. If the FB hits the 1 tech with the C then in some cases you will clog up the line.

I hope this does not sound to confusing for everyone. I am not a real good explainer.

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Coach Joe Senior Member Posts: 432	FULL ZONE Jun 23, 2004 21:15:51 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Coach Joe on Jun 23, 2004 21:15:51 GMT with a 1 tech. I like to do what Alex Gibbs suggests. If he is really giving the center problems then the center has to ask the guard for help. But all you want the center to do is lock up the shade and not allow penetration.

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FULL ZONE Jun 23, 2004 23:07:59 GMT

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Post by oldreptile on Jun 23, 2004 23:07:59 GMT

Anything's possible but you may be misinterpeting your coache's description of the oZ bucket step blocking technique. I suspect a misinterpetation of terminology "roll cut". I suspect that there is no cut block involved on a dt or de from b gap on out during an outside zone play. Most likely proper interpetation would be: uncovered ---------,----------, on third step - crossover with the right foot(GOING RIGHT) rolling over the left foot as you "cut" upfield to overtake the down lineman or move to the next level if no overtake is possible.

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FULL ZONE Jun 24, 2004 6:21:42 GMT

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Post by kel_coach on Jun 24, 2004 6:21:42 GMT

OLZone,

We current block inside zone 2 ways with the FB, either lead through on force player or block BSDE. The FB blocking the 1 tech was just an idea we were thinking about in primarily short yardage situations. I do see what you mean about clogging the line up though. For that center vs 1 tech matchup, we are looking for a stalemate at the line, we don't want penetration like Coach Joe was saying.

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FULL ZONE Jun 24, 2004 6:49:21 GMT

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Post by MCoach on Jun 24, 2004 6:49:21 GMT

So, if I understand your philosophy, we would never get a double on inside zone unless we got a head up D lineman - a player is covered (head up), then the probability of doubling is high, but if partially covered (shade) playside no double unless Dlineman slants back into lineman.

Against a 3 tech - say right side, the PSG steps and washes the 3 tech right, the PST attacks right into his track - assuming a DE, and the TE attacks left (double a 7 or 8 tech DE) or right attacking a 9 tech?

Also, against outside zone, we're just all stepping playside fast to get horizontal movement. We are contemplating skip pulling an uncovered lineman around the corner to beat his linebacker to the outside. Saw that done with the Princeton OL coach during a clinic this past winter. Skip pulling on film got the G (say) around the corner faster than the LB could react. I think it screws up the LB reads if he's looking for an earhole pull indication, and since the lineman tends to skip higher, may block some of the vision of the LB, slowing him down. We're going to try it and see how it goes.

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FULL ZONE Jun 24, 2004 7:43:40 GMT

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Post by kel_coach on Jun 24, 2004 7:43:40 GMT

MCoach,

You are correct. We wouldn't necessarily get a double on the inside zone except in the situations you stated. Horizontal movement is as valuable if not more valuable than vertical movement because of the cutback possibilities. Penetration cannot be allowed!

In your second scenario, that is the way we would block it.

As far as skip pulling, we're not looking at it at this time. We are just trying to keep it as simple as possible. But it is an interesting idea. I believe there is also a U.o fMinnesota zone blocking thread that discusses this also.

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FULL ZONE Jun 24, 2004 16:05:56 GMT

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Post by tog on Jun 24, 2004 16:05:56 GMT

well

the roll cut is a roll cut on a toss sweep where we are trying to get outside

the steps are l step

we skip pull the uncovered man to get out to the lb on flow

not a TRUE zone scheme for this

but all across the rest of the line we are using some vertical push rotate to the bslb zone concepts

there are so many concepts of what zone blocking is that it makes it a little confusing to talk about with terminology sometimes

as one that has done a full zone stay on track,
vertical push double team
and some variations of it
it makes it hard to talk about

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OLZone Member Posts: 31	FULL ZONE Jun 24, 2004 20:34:54 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by OLZone on Jun 24, 2004 20:34:54 GMT Coach Campbell has a great book: Offensive Line Play It goes into great deal about this. I reccomend it highly! I got it in the mail yesterday and I am almost finished reading the 100 page book.
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