FULL ZONE

Coach Campbell, is full zone a feasible concept for high school football? How much of your offensive line's time goes to zone blocking, in-season and off-season? Do you favor one type of zone concept over another? If so, why?

Tog....
Kinda weird but your line of thinking is just the opposite of ours. When we run the Stretch/Outside Zone with Full Zone Blocking we usually shorten our splits so that we can overtake with the Uncovered Lineman without penetration.
When we want to widen splits we switch to Man Schemes and Block Down and step around.
Just 2 different schools of thought.

another source of confusion might be my militantism about what full zone means

each man has their AREA, really concentrate on blocking my ps area and not worrying about the next man over and who has what and all that stuff that makes it difficult for hs ol to execute, hell make it easy for em

run to your right and take anything there

makes for a simple rule
then you just add the right steps, the right hand placement for when they engage
effort, pad level, where to look if not engaged in the first couple of steps.the fundamental stuff

out of the gun, stretch/inside zone and many other things you could run with this type of blocking
penetration should not be much of an issue, just ride them out and stay engaged on them

let the backs make their cuts

yeah kel

that is pretty much what i am talking about

a pure zone concept, i have this area, if i am uncovered and i am heading into my area and the ps guy next to me is engaged, if i see color take it, if not, go to second level

have been at a school where we the players have to go both ways, and this is one of the main reasons we went to the zone idea

JUST EASY, for the kids, to understand, to get good at, to adjust to any look a defense would give us

i like it a lot

i would use the qb boot to hold him as that is part of our package

but i have blocked him with the fb before

for the inside zone though, i think it helps to get a full flow look from the fb as well

we would have him block the force

and have the rest of the ol zone up to the next backside backer if they cannot overtake the psdl

we do not use a traditional FB though, we lined up in some offset I, no straight i, and a lot of wing sets with the fb motioning to the side we wanted to run stretch where we could get the most combos

most of the time we would get in two te ace and the fb would just line up out wide
then we would motion the fb or the z to the direction we wanted to run strecth, with the plays off of this being counter back the other way and inside zone against the full flow

we have run stretch when we have a 9 tech that will not be reached with the fb going to the pslb
usually a 4-3 look
try to run it to the 3 tech so the pst can double with the psg to the mike

we just tag it, basically only do this because the pst and te cannot get to where they need to be

waterskier

that sounds like what i have been doing

the vertical push type of zone stuff

when you have the fullback lead on the inside zone who does he block?

just learned of another technique for full zone

open up on first step (not a bucket, just straight down the line like guard trap pull almost)
crossover on 2nd step
3 step try to roll cut into the ps dl

kel

if they do not feel pressure in their playside gap from a dl then yes they would go up to second level on path

it is a new way to run it for me as i am joining a new staff, but i like the concepts behind it

i would like to really implement it across the board and make things simple for the ol and get them good at it

i havent seen enough film to really dissect it
we are in initial stages of talking about the offense

the offensive package is a morphed out wing-t that runs the f, lead, sweep, counter, and gun stuff, even 5 wide

when i learn more about it, i will get on here and explain

just from what it sounds like, sounds like a backside cutoff move that i had out bste's do to cut people off

We Run basically 2 zone plays from the gun, One is an inside zone where the backs aim for the playside tackles inside leg and he has a 3 way go. The other is more of a power zone approach where the back attacks the inside leg of the playside guard right away, This is more of a vertical push type play for us. We are concerned with getting movement on level 1 and banging it up for a couple of yards.

On our other zone play, we use a covered/ uncovered approach like everyone else. The covered man steps playside ( steps depend on alignment) if by his second step the defensive lineman angles to his playside gap, he takes him aiming for playside number, widening him as they go, if on his second step the d lineman plays straight up or slants inside, he still punches the playside number but with one hand impeding the defender while the uncovered man gets there to take the block over. He then makes his way to the LB.

The uncovered lineman now takes a slight drop step, back and lateral, opening his hips to the down lineman, Instead of telling the linemen to step at a 45 degree angle or whatever ( I don't carry a protractor with me ) I tell them to take a step that will enable them to get their playside big toe on the defenders playside little toe. He is also aiming for the playside number of the down lineman. If the d lineman does anything other than slant away, we try to get the uncovered man to take over the down lineman. If the down lineman slants away then he works slowly to the next level taking the LB.

If we face a team that covers our center, Playside guard and playside tackle or if they like to do a lot of twist games, Our linemen will call FUZE which stands for full zone. when the call is made the linemen all take a bucket step and run their tracks looking for whoever comes into their zone, if by his second to third step no one shows on level one they then continue on their tracks to the second level. I believe that this combines the best of both worlds for us and it allows us to be flexible.

send em all playside unless the guy with a shade needs some help, then chip him

at least for the gcg area

outside, with a ot and te and a 7 tech

just duoble team the hell out of him up to the sam against a 4-3

you better bring over someone for the 8 against a split look though, and just combo to the bslbr

it is easier than trying to rotate up to the playside lbrs in my opinion