Reading from a Sprint Out

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Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 17, 2004 11:45:07 GMT

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Post by Option Coach on Jun 17, 2004 11:45:07 GMT

We are an option team and had great success running the ball last year. However, we do need to improve the production of our passing game. We have used 4-5 basic 5 step drop pass plays in the past, but after watching our Soph. QB at a passing clinic, I'm convinced that he will do better in a sprint out package. He's a typical option QB: short (5'10") but fast, with average arm strength. As a coach, I've spent considerable time (and $!) trying to learn more about the West Coast attack. I'm wondering if the basic reads (like a curl-flat read) still apply in the sprint out game. Or, since we're attacking the outside third of the field, do we basically need to flood that third? Will a backside IN route hold the free safety?

Any help on where I can find some in depth information on the sprint out game would be greatly appreciated.

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Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 17, 2004 16:43:56 GMT

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Post by The tobster on Jun 17, 2004 16:43:56 GMT

Coach we are a Sprint out team(basically from the I though) and we have had great success with it. My head Coach is an ex-QB who has converted me.

We run the Curl/ with a Rail/Out read(he reads outside defender and if he can break the Cushion by 10 yds he stays on the rail, and if not then he sits down in the Out window),

we run outs by #1 and a Corner by #2,

or an out by #2 and a Clear by #1,

and a Corner by #2 and a Smash by #1.

Our QB does read the Curl/Rail or the Smash/Corner. We do run a post or dig by the backside rec. but don't throw it.
The thing we love about the Sprint out is the much shorter throws, the lack of pressure in the QB's face and how things are clear to the QB because he only focuses on a 4th of the Field usually and the Linebackers are not a factor if he attacks the outside.
Let me say again, I was a convert, who thought the Sprint Out was only good for the out or the Flood and only if you had a running QB. I was wrong. Our QB last year would have probably been a guard for most people. You having a QB that is a threat to run will just be a bonus.

hang_50 Senior Member Posts: 290	Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 18, 2004 4:08:50 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by hang_50 on Jun 18, 2004 4:08:50 GMT Just Curious..... At what depth are your receivers making their cuts in the routes you mentioned in the sprint out game? Thnaks in advance!
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The tobster
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Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 18, 2004 6:15:35 GMT

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Post by The tobster on Jun 18, 2004 6:15:35 GMT

Our QB is ready to throw on his 5th step. Our Curl/Out breaks are at 14. The Rail Read breaks to out at 10 (so it will break before QB is ready to throw).
The Smash works inside at a depth of about 7 yds and back out.

The best thing to do is take your QB and sprint him and see what depth the Rec. is when the QB hits the 5th step ready to throw. That will give you the best timing and depth rather than use an arbitrary distance someone else determines.

shark Member Posts: 34	Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 18, 2004 15:15:30 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by shark on Jun 18, 2004 15:15:30 GMT Excuse my ingnorance but what do you mean by a rail route?

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Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 19, 2004 5:55:43 GMT

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Post by The tobster on Jun 19, 2004 5:55:43 GMT

Shark, the Rail route is when the #2 rec. crosses stems with the #1 rec.

#1 is usually on an inside breaking route like a curl or a post that may induce the C to close/drift inside with #1.
#2 gets outside and runs vertical on the outside, in effect swapping with #1.

In our scheme #1 runs a curl, while #2 runs the rail with a little twist, if by 7 yds, #2 does not feel he is breaking C's leverage vertical(in other words the C has not drifted inside, and he is staying deep) then #2 has the option to sit down outside at 10 yds. This is a read for the Rec . #2, our QB is not ready to throw till his 5th step and by that time the rec is sitting at 10yds or deep on the rail.

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Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 19, 2004 6:52:54 GMT

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Post by groundchuck on Jun 19, 2004 6:52:54 GMT

I am looking for a couple of simple sprint out concepts. I would like them to compliment each other. We are an I option team and my QB is 5'9 so I need to get him out of the pocket on the run...but I want to have a couple of "simple" concepts that feed off eachother, if they stop one it opens up the other.

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Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 19, 2004 19:09:39 GMT

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Post by Coach4Life on Jun 19, 2004 19:09:39 GMT

groundchuck,

Not qute a sprintout, but do you have play action off of an option look, i.e. fake the fullback dive, drop to behind the tackle (blocking the DE of course). I've seen that be effective, especially for teams that run the option well. From a pro, backside Skinny, frontside wideout runs curl or corner, other back swings or shoots to work a Hi-Low combo. TE stays to protect vs. a 9 or runs a stick for a nice triangle read if on the drop side or a cross if the fake is to the weak side. Just a thought...

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Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 20, 2004 14:12:19 GMT

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Post by The tobster on Jun 20, 2004 14:12:19 GMT

Groundchuck,
I have listed our basic package earlier on this topic.
If I were to choose 2 routes only it would be:
the Curl/Raid Read concept because it is the most versatile and it works best against man and Cover3
For Cover 2,4(2 deep Safety defenses) we use the Smash/Corner concept.

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Reading from a Sprint Out Jun 22, 2004 9:37:47 GMT

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Post by mrowe8 on Jun 22, 2004 9:37:47 GMT

We have a nice sprintout series in place that we use in combination with our traditional I option attack. 99% of our sprintout is run to the 2 split receiver side with the TE releasing and running a backside post.

We traditionally see a cover 3 look versus this alignment wich allows our QB to pre snap read the middle safety - if he cheats to twins then you can probably pull up short on your sprint out and hit the backside post in the hole -- otherwise --

Stop - outside receiver (#1) vertical for 12 - 14 yards then throw the outside hand up and look back to sell fade before breaking down and driving back and out towards the sideline.
inside (#2) attack inside shoulder of 2nd flat defender if he is heads up or inside of you. At 7 yards curl out and float away from the inside coverage but don't get underneath the #1 route.
This gives the QB a read on the 2nd flat defender of a cover 3. If he starts outside of #2 then hit him hot obviously. He usually will start heads up or inside of 2 however so now the number 2 route must lean inside of this defender and force him to either move in to protect or immediatley bail to his flat responsibility to get under the #1 route. Give #1 time as it is usually the open route and an easy ball if your QB attacks the line of scrimmage and the receiver he is delivering too. #2 is a soft easy check down throw usually.

VS cover 2 you will read first flat defender for your #2 out or #1 deep -- this is much like a smash read in that case.

In - #1 runs 14 yard then hitch break in and back.
#2 runs 3 yard out. Same reads as Stop route above

Switch - #1 runs at the 1st inside linebacker crossing #2's face then (swirls) or (collisions) and drives flat back away from the inside coverage at about 7 yards.
#2 runs the above mentioned rail or wheel type of release behind #1 getting 14 yards deep selling the fade then hitchs outside and back towards the sideline. This again has the same reads.

Stutter - #2 runs a 10 yard hard out
#1 runs a 10 yards then breaks down and looks back for the ball under control then takes off on fade (Stop and Go/ Pump and Go idea)
QB must get the pump on the breakdown to get the saftey to jump up. If you run enough of the others he gets tired of getting beat in front and trys to jump up and make the pick. When you see him to this it is time for the stutter ball.

Hope this helps -- We have been running it for 15 years at the varsity level with great success. It is perfect for a smaller less then desirable arm strength QB.

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Post by Option Coach on Jun 17, 2004 11:45:07 GMT

Post by The tobster on Jun 17, 2004 16:43:56 GMT

Post by hang_50 on Jun 18, 2004 4:08:50 GMT

Post by The tobster on Jun 18, 2004 6:15:35 GMT

Post by shark on Jun 18, 2004 15:15:30 GMT

Post by The tobster on Jun 19, 2004 5:55:43 GMT

Post by groundchuck on Jun 19, 2004 6:52:54 GMT

Post by Coach4Life on Jun 19, 2004 19:09:39 GMT

Post by The tobster on Jun 20, 2004 14:12:19 GMT

Post by mrowe8 on Jun 22, 2004 9:37:47 GMT

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