Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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If I am thinking correctly, many systems that use the Belly ride with the FB have the QB reversing out from the center and into the FB ride. Is this better than the QB just opening to the playside? Why or why not? It would seem that the quicker you got into the ride the quicker the play would develop.
elow, if they do, the QB better have some really quick feet! Maybe on some kind of a delay action by the FB play, or whatever, but the FB aligns usually at 4 yds. off the ball and if he hits the hole with the explosion he is supposed to, he is going to be long gone when the QB is half way through his turn around, imo. It would be very awkward for the QB, at best, to be turning to his left and complete the necessary steps for the turn around while reaching back to ride the FB. The old conventional ride by the QB,was replaced 10 years ago on my team. We point the ball, rather than ride it. Reversing out, in the event the play was anything but a predertermined give to the FB, would preclude the QB from making any kind of read quickly, because as he turns completely around, the back of his head at one point in the turn around procedure would be facing the LOS, agreed? To me, that would be an unsound technique for any QB trying to read anything on the D line. I totally agree with your thinking in your last sentence. Just my opinion, and I wouldn't want to offend anyone who does reverse out. If it works for them, good deal.
Coach Easton procedure would be totally
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach Easton--thanks for the response. In the FB rides I have seen, they ride to the B or C gap so apparently the QB has time to make the mess. I agree with you about being able to read the defense, would be hard if you are rotating first. Thanks
Elow, Now alot of teams including Clemson where my son played QB, run the counter option that way, of course, but that incorporates a fake on the reverse out to the FB and then reading and giving the ball in the 4 hole or bettter. Like you say if they are giving the ball in the b or c gap, that is very feasable. I thought you were referring to the FB up the gut.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Elow, Now alot of teams including Clemson where my son played QB, run the counter option that way, of course, but that incorporates a fake on the reverse out to the FB and then reading and giving the ball in the 4 hole or bettter. Like you say if they are giving the ball in the b or c gap, that is very feasable. I thought you were referring to the FB up the gut.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach--I can see the reversing out if there is a counter off of it but I have seen teams run it without the counter being involved--any idea why they do this (again with the FB running to b or c gap).
elow, my thinking would have to be they reverse out to freeze the D, by having the LB take his jab step in the wrong direction(start one way, shift his weight and go back the other,etc.) and to influence the defense in general with the idea that flow will be going one way, when it really is going the other. Thats the usual reason for having a QB reverse out, just in general terms.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach Easton--That was my thinking, but in looking at some of the offensive systems, they don't have a counter in this scheme often enough to--my way of thinking--force the LB or defense to freeze with a reverse out. So if a defense knows this is not happening by studying a team that would run this, the defense then could just cheat, with the thought of, I will give up 1 or 2 big gaines with a counter and stop everything else. I guess that is why I first thought, then, why do they do it?
We have run it both ways. We converted a few years ago back to coming straight out and got away from the reversing. Mostly this was due to the fact that we wanted a longer ride and that our counter game was not going to be there (as other coaches have pointed out). The reverse gives us a much better angle and allows the BSG to trap better for the counter play.
So, if it's critical for you to have your counter play, I'd say reverse. If not, then front out.
We run the Belly Series with our QB reversing out. The reasons behind this are:
1) Our FB's first step is lateral, then downhill at the PsT. On Belly Dive he needs time to read the kick/log of the pulling PsG and therefore needs to get the ball deeper in the backfield than the Veer Series.
2) The ride is a predetermined give or keep.
3) The deeper angle by the QB puts him at the proper depth to read the kick/log and follow the FB on Belly Option.
4) The rolling action by the QB and the resulting depth and angle of the mesh keeps the QB moving throughout the play, rather than the stop and start action of the Veer mesh. The Belly is a slower developing play than the traditional Veer but by keeping the QB on the move, you get him around the corner quicker when the PsG logs, or you put more outside pressure on the DE to help the kick out create more space inside for the cut up the seam.
I hope this makes some sense because this is how we do it : )
Coaches, See what I mean? I run it one way, the next man runs it his way. If it works for you, and the reasons listed above sound very well thought out to me, then go for it! We say it over and over here on the board, go with what you know, are comfortable with, and if it works by all means hang with it!
J.C.Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
With the belly we attach an addiditional play to take advantage of an over active backside end and linebacker. The play we run off Belly is called Swing, this tells the Tailback to run the opposite direction so that when the Qb comes around on his reverse out he flicks the ball to the tailback going opposite the direction of flow. With our belly play we backside inside veer release because of this play. We want to find out if the backside end is a heel line player if so we put the tailback one on one with him. Coach CAmpbell
Post by ayeziggyzoomba on Aug 14, 2004 9:46:01 GMT
our qb reverses out... our fb is at 3 and a half yards and takes a crossover step to inside butt cheek of tackle... work the timing... great complement to a G pull sweep.. and the fullback is taught to bullet out of his stance... just work it so the qb's get the feel of how fast they need to get there.