Counters out of Flexbone

VeerOption70
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Counters out of Flexbone Oct 26, 2004 5:30:25 GMT

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Post by VeerOption70 on Oct 26, 2004 5:30:25 GMT

What Counters are you Flexbone guys runing off of a Veer look? We run a play similar to "Counter Iso" but with a pass set backside (really like Wing T Sally). It has been fairly successful but this year teams are either sitting the backside LB or simply blowing up our OG/OT and trashing the play.

We would love another Counter; We have tried Counter Option with the QB Meshing one way, then reverse pivoting and coming back the other way; the QB gets hit before he can pitch by the DE who is in his face immediately. This either forces a bad pitch or a Tackle for loss. I know he should Hot pitch but it's just not there.

We run Inside and Outside Veer out of Flexbone and would love a few more ideas for Counters...Thanks!

CoachKramer
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Counters out of Flexbone Oct 26, 2004 7:49:12 GMT

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Post by CoachKramer on Oct 26, 2004 7:49:12 GMT

Are you Trapping the end on counter option? Pull your veer side guard and have the FB replace him. The guard would either seal or log the de the Qb should have a seam to run through under our outside end. Playside tackle would combo dt to Most Dangerous backer. In addition, you could run the same action as your counter Iso except the playside slot would stay in pitch relationship and (1)have your FB run load path on the DE the backside and pull both guard and tackle with the backside slot following themn off tackle or (2) have your fb replace a pulling guard and have the slot follow a single trapper. also a QB counter with a inside trap is deadly.

VeerOption70 Member Posts: 99	Counters out of Flexbone Oct 27, 2004 8:24:12 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by VeerOption70 on Oct 27, 2004 8:24:12 GMT Coach- How do you run the QB Counter with Inside Trap? Which Traps do you run? Thanks!

CoachKramer Member Posts: 140	Counters out of Flexbone Oct 27, 2004 10:59:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by CoachKramer on Oct 27, 2004 10:59:16 GMT We run veer action rt and trap the lt Dt with our rt G. Tackles release to backers and trap side guard doubles nose or goes to 2nd level. Simple and deadly.

kc361
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Counters out of Flexbone Dec 3, 2004 7:29:51 GMT

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Post by kc361 on Dec 3, 2004 7:29:51 GMT

Coach,

We run FB trap, HB counter, counter option, reverse, fake reverse.

We throw backside slant, backside post, and we drag either the HB or WR to the backside (depending on formation). We run them all off of play action.

We also run the midline with the PSHB in motion (with the QB action the BSHB can still get into a pitch relationship). As a change-up, we sometimes run our zone-dive with the PSHB in motion.

This gives us up to 10 ways to slow down the defensive pursuit.

3-3-5 Coach Senior Member Posts: 246	Counters out of Flexbone Dec 3, 2004 10:04:27 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by 3-3-5 Coach on Dec 3, 2004 10:04:27 GMT Fake belly action with QB/FB, pull BS T/G give to WB coming underneath QB.

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Post by VeerOption70 on Oct 26, 2004 5:30:25 GMT

Post by CoachKramer on Oct 26, 2004 7:49:12 GMT

Post by VeerOption70 on Oct 27, 2004 8:24:12 GMT

Post by CoachKramer on Oct 27, 2004 10:59:16 GMT

Post by kc361 on Dec 3, 2004 7:29:51 GMT

Post by 3-3-5 Coach on Dec 3, 2004 10:04:27 GMT

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