Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I have heard coaches say that it is sufficient to hold the backside DE with a naked fake by the Qb and nothing else. I think teams that have a good runner at QB can get away with this. Alex Gibbs though always wants someone to block that DE (FB , receiver) or have him influenced by an end around fake along with the QB carrying out his fake. Why is that??
You can also have the tackle "sift" and block the DE. If no one is threatning the backside B gap he can get a piece of the end.
I think the reason Alex Gibbs wants the Backside DE blocked is simple; I'm thinking he isn't comfortable with that QB out there with his rear in the wind... against an NFL caliber DE. Some of those guys are essentially Outside LB's in some cases and defenses... and they may just be taught to key the QB in that situation - in fact when I played in college that backside contain guy's key was the QB ("deep as the QB... be aware of his fakes). Since a number of OLB/DE types are QUITE agile and quick these days, I'd want someone to get a piece of him too!
At least if you block the DE - even in a hit and release into the flats situation, you get a body on him and turn him too far inside, out of the QB's path.
In one of his videos Steve Loney talks about the different ways to block that backside D (or C - depending on formation) gap defender. Similar ways... FB block, WR sweep look, naked.
Myself I'd get a little jittery putting my franchise QB out there all alone against a DE a number of times a game - that's my best guess as to why they do what they do. Would you like the odds of say Plummer/Griese rolling out naked against say a Jerry Porter, Jevon Kearse or Simeon Rice?
In the tight zone video, He doesn't really give a reason but he pretty much says it is because it is a "rollback" play and the DE might affect the play if he isn't blocked and the play rollsback because of the tailback reads. As opposed to wide zone where the end usually won't be a factor because it stretches the defense so much.
university of Minnesotta will leave the backside end unblocked since they use alot of 1 back and their QB is a pretty good running QB and alot of their passing game is based on bootleg playaction off the naked.
Blackfly what other ways does Loney talk about for handling the BSDE?
As a QB coach, I'm going to block him everytime. I'm not going to give him a single chance to make a great play and blindside my guy, they take too long to make. I'm with Russ Grim on this one, and my QB's can all run like deer. Just my way.
JC
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Mc Carty on Dec 10, 2004 15:42:34 GMT
I'm not sure what level everyone is coaching here, but for me when I coached some DII college ball and now in high school we used a lot of receiver reverse fakes to play games with backside defenders. This year our jet motion worked great. It took some time early in camp to get the QBs timing down with snapping the ball where it needed to be snapped and doing his same footwork as he normally would, but adding the quick reverse fake to the WR. We are mostly a one back team. When we went to our 2TE 2 back formation we ran a scheme were we blocked inside zone playside, sent the fullback backside on the OLB and had our backside Lineman seal block any defender head up to outside shade. We told our tailback to look for cutback a little more when we ran this. Was a great play for us. We also had a athletic QB that we ran a good chuck of naked keep with. I think the best way to deal with the backside is to give them several different looks to keep them honest.
Coach Mcarty, I coached HS ball for close to 30 years and professional minor league (guys who did not get drafted coming out of college and NFL,CFL, Arena League, NFL Europe League athletes trying to get back) for the last ten, just starting my 11th. I have put 31 former players from my team to those leagues. We zone playside and are solid or scoop the backside. I have motioned across the formation on occasion to take on the BSDE. In slide pass pro, we are going to put a hat on everybody coming which is man coverage, of course. I have used the FB or H back to kick him out by motioning the H or by the FB going directly to him.
JC
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
that inside zone play looks interesting, So you are zone blocking playside and turnback blocking backside? How would it look against certain fronts you see? thanks
Post by Coach Mc Carty on Dec 10, 2004 19:23:49 GMT
We've seen many different fronts when going to our 2 TE 2RB formation. I start by telling my backside TE that he is always turning back. It the BS tackle is covered (head up to outside shade) he too will turn back. If the BS guard is covered he does the same. I tell our FB he will block the LB in the first bubble inside the backside TE. So against a backside 9,5,3 the FB will go backside A gap to the LB. If it was a backside 9,5, and shade the BS guard would base reach the shade and the FB would go to B gap for the LB. It is like running ISO but with cutback action from the tailback
So what happens it the lineman backside is covered head up? Does he try to influence him by stepping backside or does he step playside and the fullback is responsible for reading his block to determine where to enter to make his block?
Post by Coach Mc Carty on Dec 10, 2004 20:06:59 GMT
Coach Joe, We tell him to zone step and read the dlineman. If he crosses our face we will base reach him. If he doesn't we will try and seal him. If our lineman don't take their 6 inch initial step it creates problems. I like to bring the FB out of the I in this play so he had time to see who and were to block them.