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We are trying to get our Corners to come up as quickly as possible on routes thrown underneath without cheating and giving up deep routes which is their first responsibility. How do you key out this position to play the pass, run, etc?
My alma mater is now reading the drop of the QB. If it is a 3 step they jump the route. If it is 5 or more they must play for the deeper route. They play a lot of cover 3 and 2 out of a 3-3 stack now and leave the flats. I don't like playing so much zone, but it has worked for them. I bet some others have some helpful tips.
That is an interesting idea. Because of our defensive alignment with our 2 safeties both up tight in "inverted" positions, the play of our CB's is critical in case we get caught in a poor rotation when we are in cover 3.
Do you know anything about the techniques or alignments they use as they read the QB drop? We always have our CB's take 3 "read steps". Do they read step or do they sit and read? Again, because of our safety play, our CB's are our absolute last line of defense, so we align at the standard 7 yards and take 3 read steps. This is fine unless a team decides to run 3-step quick stuff on us (outs, slants, comeback, etc.). Now granted, we can change our coverage and adjust...but our defensive base is that rotating cover 3. I'd love to have a sound way to defend against the 3 step game and maintain our base coverage.
coach i have my corners line up 7-9 yds deep depending on the opposition. i have them baby step for 3 keeping low and reading the qb's back shoulder( high or low) to get a key on 3 step stuff.
Coach, This year we played a lot of cover 3 because my corners were not very good. We had them align 7 yards deep and 2 yards inside. They had their shoulders parallel to the sideline (cocked in just a bit) they would shuffle read the QB for their first 3 shuffles. They were nice and slow shuffles so they were not giving to much cushion to the WR. They could get pretty good run pass reads from the QB. They were not allowed to honor the QB run read (playaction) until they saw the ball. After their 3 shuffles they were to get out into their deep third. We had good success with this.
We align corners parallel to LOS and 7yds deep on inside half or WR. On the snap, C's take three shuffle steps or slow steps back while reading the UNOCOVERED LINEMAN to their side. If that lineman fires across the LOS, the C's then play thier run responsibility. If that lineman DOES ANYTHING ELSE (pull, cross-block, downblock, etc) the C plays pass until he sees the ball in a RB's hands. We went to this because our DB's were playing run when they saw Wing-T tackles downblock on waggle. It's been a big help. Some kids do a better job of reading high/low hats of linemen, and we will let a kid do this. One thing that has helped us is that when I watch film early in the week, I try to find the lineman on each side of the ball that gives a good run/pass key. 99% of the time it will be the OT on each side of the ball (we are a wide-tackle6 defense) because he will have a LB over him. I simply tell the DB's to look at him as they watch film.
SuperChief, We do as you and the same with our safeties as well. We also incorporate an audible alert upon recognition of run/pass so the safeties and corners can be more aggressive in run support.
Lochness - I just heard back from my college DB coach. Here is his reply pertaining to the corners reading the drop of the QB in cover 3:
sorry it has taken so long to get back to ya. here are our cover 3 rules/responsibilities: corners key the QB. they start in a backpedal while reading the qb for the 3 step drop. if they read 3 step, they chop their feet and settle to react to the quick throw. as soon as they see it is not a 3 step, they turn and run and play their deep third. we started doing this technique because we felt it was important that our flat player collision slot receivers before dropping to the flat. we were allowing some big plays by slot receivers running vertically because our flat coverers were just running out to flat right away and nobody could get a hand on the slot. so this just gives us some more support out in the flat for the quick pass. obviously i dont expect our corners to get back and break up 3 yard passes, but they can come up and make a good tackle. they still have to realize that they still cant get beat deep in their third.
as far as run responsibilities our corners always have secondary run support in cover 3. If run is toward them, they have secondary contain. if run is away, they keep all 21 players in front of them and become the touchdown saver.
Have always played my weak corner at 5-7 yds. (when in cover#3) off the receiver because he is their best receiver. I play my strong corner off at 7-9 yds. They read QB, revert if drop is more than 3 step.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Has anybody had problems with the quick smash combo? We rarely run cover 3 because I don't like the flat coverage against the quick game. If a corner starts jumping the short routes, a good OC should start throwing the ball over him. When we do run Cover 3, it is usually on 3 and very long, more like a prevent type coverage. Also, when in Cover 3, we are initially reading the release and route of the #2 receiver because of the smash route possibility.
Food for thought. Our Cover 3 philosophy (out of 53) is we take away the slant. We drill the living crap out of the fade and we force them to hit the 10 yard out. If they can consistantly do that, we will switch things up. In 13 years of coaching I have run across 1 QB in our area that could do that.
NEVER TAKE YOUR EYES OFF THE QB's EYES & FRONT SHOULDER - (HIS "RADAR GUN")! KEEP A 4 YD CUSHION ON THE DEEPEST MAN IN YOUR ZONE. WHEN THE QB'S NON-THROWING ELBOW STARTS DOWN PARALLEL TO THE GROUND BREAK IN THE DIRECTION OF THE THROW (PLANT YOUR BACK FOOT, PUSH OFF OF IT, & "DON'T SPIN YOUR WHEELS"). PLAY THE BALL - NOT THE MAN - IF YOU CAN GET BOTH HANDS ON THE BALL IGNOR THE RECEIVER - IF YOU CAN'T - GO THROUGH THE RECEIVER TO THE BALL! IF YOU DO THIS TECHNIQUE PROPERLY - YOU CAN COVER 1/3 OF THE DISTANCE THE BALL IS IN THE AIR!
THIS TECHNIQUE WAS USED BY A FORMER H.S. PLAYER OF MINE (DARREN PERRY) AS AN ALL-AMERICAN AT PA. ST., & STARTING F/S FOR 9 YEARS WITH THE STEELERS, & NOW SECONDARY COACH OF THE STEELERS.
How do you compensate for slants and breaks with a 4 yd. cushion? Are you counting on your guys being good closers? Just curious. I know if Darren used the technique it is solid. In the PSL, are your CB's off with inside leverage or no? What are your alignments (how far off) are your corners on the #1's in the PSL? If you roll up and show man in the PSL, then immediately revert to zone on the snap, with the SS to the call side, how do you stop the slant on the back side with the corner playing off. Obviously, it would have to be the Will, but if the x can play do you not find yourself suceptible to the skinny post? Just wondering how you account for these REAL POSSIBILITIES, not "what ifs".
JC
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
JC - I am referring to deep 1/3 players. Not too worried about a Cover 3 corner BREAKING UP THE SLANT (our theory in Cover 3 is that the slant is thrown vs the UNDERNEATH coverage). You COULD do what the QUARTER COVERAGE people feature & that is if QB takes 3 steps break up to stop the 5-6 yd pass; if QB takes 5 steps expect the 12-14 yd breaking point; if QB takes 7 steps - flip your hips & run.
In Cover 3 - we NORMALLY align 1 yd OUTSIDE & 8 yds deep. I know that's a hell of a cushion, but we spend al our time drilling "BREAKING ON THE BALL"! As to the 4 yd cushion - we ask for 4, & normally get 2 1/2 to 3. When we asked for 3 - we got 1 1/2 or 2 (we're just "overcompensating").
In the "PSL" look of MAN/BLITZ (everybody up) - if we back out to base Cover 3 - everybody has to get to his align & be stationary before the ball is snapped
PS: We play Cover 0 (tight & loose) vs anything, Cover 1 (tight & loose) - mainly to check OUT of Robber vs One-Back sets, Cover Robber/Man (like Va Tech Robber except Corners play man rather than 2 deep zone) mainly vs 2 back sets; and Cover 3 vs anything. That is all we use.
BILL, COVER THREE UNDER THREAT IS COVERED BY UNDER GUYS, SURE ENOUGH. BUT, THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR MY QUESTION ON THE BACKSIDE. NO PROBLEM AS YOUR POST EXPLAINS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. GOOD CLOSERS ARE BUILT BY DRILLING THE HECK OUT OF THEM, PROVIDED THEY HAVE THE SPEED AND QUICKNESS, IMO. REMEMBER DARREL GREEN? HE WAS THE ONLY ONE STEP CLOSER I EVER SAW!!! JOHN MADDEN HAD A CUTUP ONE NIGHT OF HIM AND AIRED IT ON MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. HE WAS AMAZING! I AM A MAN COVERAGE GUY, USE COMBOS OF MAN UNDER ALMOST 95% OF THE TIME AND ZONE DEEP. COVER 0, COVER 1, COVER 2 WITH CORNERS ROLLED UP AND HARD UNDER, COVER 2 DISGUISE, FOR THE MOST PART.
JC
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Quote NEVER TAKE YOUR EYES OFF THE QB's EYES & FRONT SHOULDER - (HIS "RADAR GUN")! KEEP A 4 YD CUSHION ON THE DEEPEST MAN IN YOUR ZONE. WHEN THE QB'S NON-THROWING ELBOW STARTS DOWN PARALLEL TO THE GROUND BREAK IN THE DIRECTION OF THE THROW (PLANT YOUR BACK FOOT, PUSH OFF OF IT, & "DON'T SPIN YOUR WHEELS"). PLAY THE BALL - NOT THE MAN - IF YOU CAN GET BOTH HANDS ON THE BALL IGNOR THE RECEIVER - IF YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH THE RECEIVER TO THE BALL! IF YOU DO THIS TECHNIQUE PROPERLY - YOU CAN COVER 1/3 OF THE DISTANCE THE BALL IS IN THE AIR!
Oneback -
Great post! So how do you drill breaking on the ball?
Drill "breaking on the ball" by going 1 on 1 live (when the defender KNOWS what route is coming - such as a 12 yd out). This gives the CB an unfair advantage, but he gets his TIMING & STEPS DOWN! We do this in practice vs EACH of our opponents best 4-5 routes to their WR. IF you teach them to break in the direction the QB's front shoulder is pointing as he pulls his left elbow down - the CB plants his back foot & breaks on the ball. Check for false steps & breaking TOO late. You can go "OUT & UP" just enough to keep him from cheating, ETC.
We tape video & show (from practice) that the CB CAN break 1/3 the distance the ball is in the air (if the ball travels 21 yds in the AIR - the CB can break it up with this technique IF he is within 7 yds of the WR as the ball is released AS LONG AS he focuses on the ball & sees the receiver thru peripheral vision). Take a tall stand up dummy & place it 15 yds deep - put the DB 5 yds behind the dummy - coach throws the ball at the top of the dummy from 15 yds deep on other side - DB can get there as quick as ball everytime! Obviously - we are assuming talent somewhat equal, & a lot of reps to get it down. Coach should stand behind the OFFENSE & study DB's EYES!
JC: As to the guys in Cover 3 DEEP THIRDS coming up too soon, I guess it depends on the theory being used in Cover 3:
A) PURE ZONE - stay deeper than the deepest - somewhere the middle of your zone. Predicated on the fact that if you came up too soon on a slant - Y flat & up (wheel) would burn you. If you came up to quick on a hitch - the smash combo (#2 goes to corner behind you) would burn you. ETC.
B) ZONE WITH MAN PRINCIPLES: Assigned a deep 1/3 but jump the first man that threatens you man (MAN WITHIN A ZONE).
When we play zone - we play pure zone. I see it taught BOTH ways, & both are good.
BILL, THANKS FOR YOUR POST AND EXPLANATION. LIKE I SAID IN THE BEGINNING I STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM COVER 3 AS IS POSSIBLE FOR THE MOST PART, SOMETIMES THEY FORCE YOU INTO IT AS YOU WELL KNOW. MAYBE I POSTED THAT ON ANOTHER THREAD, BUT THAT IS MY TRUE FEELINGS.
JC
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Quote Originally posted by: giacomob coach i have my corners line up 7-9 yds deep depending on the opposition. i have them baby step for 3 keeping low and reading the qb's back shoulder( high or low) to get a key on 3 step stuff.
Explain reading the back shoulder to me. What does it tell the DB? Thanks!
When a QB is executing a quick 3 stepper he will generally stay higher during his drop-back as he wants to be tall and have his weight ready to go forward into his throw as he plants on his 3rd step. A 5 or 7 step drop will see him lean back more to achieve speed to get back there and get set for his reads. This causes his back shoulder to be carried lower than it is in a 3 stepper. We feel that this can give our CBs a decent initial read as to whether it will be a short throw or not.
When a QB is executing a quick 3 stepper he will generally stay higher during his drop-back as he wants to be tall and have his weight ready to go forward into his throw as he plants on his 3rd step. A 5 or 7 step drop will see him lean back more to achieve speed to get back there and get set for his reads. This causes his back shoulder to be carried lower than it is in a 3 stepper. We feel that this can give our CBs a decent initial read as to whether it will be a short throw or not.
When a QB is executing a quick 3 stepper he will generally stay higher during his drop-back as he wants to be tall and have his weight ready to go forward into his throw as he plants on his 3rd step. A 5 or 7 step drop will see him lean back more to achieve speed to get back there and get set for his reads. This causes his back shoulder to be carried lower than it is in a 3 stepper. We feel that this can give our CBs a decent initial read as to whether it will be a short throw or not.
When a QB is executing a quick 3 stepper he will generally stay higher during his drop-back as he wants to be tall and have his weight ready to go forward into his throw as he plants on his 3rd step. A 5 or 7 step drop will see him lean back more to achieve speed to get back there and get set for his reads. This causes his back shoulder to be carried lower than it is in a 3 stepper. We feel that this can give our CBs a decent initial read as to whether it will be a short throw or not.
Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Mar 7, 2005 6:19:05 GMT
Reading the back shoulder is the opposite of what I teach. I have them read the front shoulder, but ti's the same idea, just reversed. If the back shoulder of the QB is high, which would put the front shoulder low, he is throwing short b/c he doesn't have to change the angle of his shoulders to throw. If the back shoulder is low and the front shoulder high, he is throwing long b/c he has to have more air under the ball and must angle his shoulder to do so. I've just always thought the front shoulder was easier to read b/c you didn't have to see through the QBs body to see it if you're on the side he throwing to. However, either would work. I hope this helps.
Defensive Back- Canisius College-4 yrs.
Assistant Coach - Bishop Grimes High School- 2 years
Assistant Coach - Cheektowaga Central High School- 5 years
"Failing to prepare is preparing to fail." -John Wooden
"I firmly believe that any many's finest hour is that moment when he has worked his heart out for a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
When a QB is executing a quick 3 stepper he will generally stay higher during his drop-back as he wants to be tall and have his weight ready to go forward into his throw as he plants on his 3rd step. A 5 or 7 step drop will see him lean back more to achieve speed to get back there and get set for his reads. This causes his back shoulder to be carried lower than it is in a 3 stepper. We feel that this can give our CBs a decent initial read as to whether it will be a short throw or not.
Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Mar 7, 2005 6:22:18 GMT
I've always taught reading the front shoulder and not the back, but it gives the DB the same idea, just in opposite fashion. If the QB has his back shoulder high, putting the front shoulder low, then he is throwing short b/c he doesn't need much air under the ball to get it there. If the back shoulder is low, putting the front shoulder high, then he is throwing long b/c he needs more air under the ball and has to angle his upper body to get the ball there. I've just thought the front shoulder is easier to read b/c you don't have to look through the QB's body if you are on the side he is throwing to. I hope this helps.
Defensive Back- Canisius College-4 yrs.
Assistant Coach - Bishop Grimes High School- 2 years
Assistant Coach - Cheektowaga Central High School- 5 years
"Failing to prepare is preparing to fail." -John Wooden
"I firmly believe that any many's finest hour is that moment when he has worked his heart out for a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi