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Hey coaches, I have a quick question regarding the Inside Veer.
When running the inside veer to the TE side with a flanker the TE is supposed to arc release to #2 (who would be a SS or OLB).
But when running the inside veer to the TE side withOUT a flanker the TE is still supposed to block the outside invert - BUT this is no longer #2, it's #1...
So what's a good way to keep this from being confusing to the TE? Just have him always arc release to the outside invert/deep safety? Also a thing to keep in mind: in an odd front he will be going to the inside invert (if they are in a 5-3) so the QB can pitch option off the defensive end. But he won't go for the inside invert in an even front.
Is there a good way to clean this up??? Thanks much coaches! -andrew
"Just because you can beat me in Madden 2004 does NOT mean you know more about football than I do."
We put our tight end on the inside linebacker. I think that's a much more efficient way to run inside veer to the tight end side. If not, I'd like to hear why.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Against a 43 declaring the te as strong side you'll see teh 3 , 5 and 9 I would just arc to the sam or 9 tech and read the corner. As for rules I would just tell him to arc to the nearest outside defender. to me this isn't a real good option because you cant track the fs or the corner, take your pick. Draw up inside veer to the other side of the formation and you will see it looks like a much better play. to me anyway. I might suggest out. veer to the te side or lead option
Yes... if the defensive end was inside of the tight end, he would arc release to the INSIDE linebacker. This is done the same way, Coach Campbell teaches his offensive tackles if they get a 4i and they are running inside veer.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
So when you arc to the inside backer (let's say this is 4-3 and it's Sam) the QB's read will be 9 tech for dive and then corner for pitch? My problem with that is if the 7,6,9 stack with the Sam backer if your TE goes outside the Sam takes dive, End takes QB, corner takes pitch and he has you - which is why I love the arc to the corner - those games don't matter.
Coach, do you number who to block or do you just give 'word' responsibilities (arc, seal, etc.)? -andrew
"Just because you can beat me in Madden 2004 does NOT mean you know more about football than I do."
Hi Coach- This year we had a lot of success using Air Forces blocking rules.
Basic rules for TE/Slot (first man ouside the tackle)
Vs 8 man front 44/62/ 53/50 Reduction LOAD - TE/Slot blocks LB vs. 7 Man Front ARC - TE/Slot to #2 SWITCH- TE/slot to #1 Crack- SE cracks the defender assigned to QB.
1) Load, Arc, Switch, and Crack are all called by us. 24 load/24 arc/ 24 switch/24 Crack 2) We can always adjust during the game and go from a load scheme to theArc/Switch and change the pitch key. 3) We run veer drill everyday and it didn't take long for the kids to catch on. By the end of the year my guys could sight adjust at the LOS.
Coach Berlin
Don't worry about the horse being blind. Just load the wagon
We never pull/pitch on two consecutive reads on the line of scrimmage. I think it is too difficult and time consuming to train. To the tight side we will only run inside veer to an uncovered guard which means this is a 50 defense. We have our tight end load the man over him and pitch off the force defender. If the tight end block stretches, the qb ducks under. If the guard is covered we will run outside veer. The tight end blocks first inside if there is a flanker to his side, otherwise he will arc to the deep 1/3 or 1/2 player.
Having multiple options gives you the chance to block and run the option in the best case possible.
IF THAT IS THE WAY YOU RUN ISV, DON'T YOU FIND OPPONENTS JUST TAKING THE PLAY AWAY FROM YOU FROM THE GIT GO? BY THAT I MEAN, IF THEY KNOW YOU ONLY RUN IT TO AN UNCOVERED GUARD, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS REDUCE AND NOW THE GUARD IS COVERED AND YOUR NO LONGER THINKING ISV?YOUR NOT REALLY RUNNING THE OSV IF YOU BLOCK THE EMLOS . IT THEN BECOMES SOME SORT OF HYBRID, IF YOU CHANGE THE RULES. NOT BEING CRITICAL, COACH, JUST HAVE COACHED THE VEER FOR LONG YEARS AND AM A QB/OC/HEAD COACH NOW ENTERING MY 41ST YEAR OF COACHING. MUCH OF THAT TIME WAS SPENT COACHING ON THE HS LEVEL AND ENJOYED TREMENDOUS SUCCESS WITH THE VEER OFFENSE. NOT READING GIVE, PULL, OR PITCH ON THE DT AND DE WHEN TEACHING THE ISV BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRAINTS WOULD INDICATE THAT THE VEER IS NOT YOUR BASE OFFENSE, AM I RIGHT ASSUMING THIS? IMO, NOT BREAKING THE RULES AND TEACHING THE TIME PROVEN METHODS THAT I OUTLINED ABOVE ARE TAUGHT IN THE OFF SEASON AND IN SPRING TRAINING AND IN THE CLASS ROOM SESSIONS WHEN TIME IS NOT A PROBLEM. THEN, WHEN YOU FALL OUT FOR THE REAL THING IN AUGUST, YOU ARE WELL PREPARED AND READY TO GO. NOW, IF THE VEER IS JUST ANOTHER OPTION TO Y'ALL AND YOU DON'T RATE IT ABOVE ANY OF THE OTHER OPTION CHOICES, THEN TINKERING WITH IT IS PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE. JUST MY OPINION AND PLEASE DO NOT TAKE IT AS INTENDED TO BE CRITICAL OR RUDE IN ANY WAY, AS THAT IS SURELY NOT MY PURPOSE IN THE POST.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach, We do not block the end on outside veer we read him. I think i put above he will block first inside if there is a flanker outside him and arc to deep 1/3 or 1/2 if there isn't. i don't care if they take one play away by alignment. in fact i think all defenses do that. If they take one play away they are succeptable to another play. That is why you should run multiple options. I would rather my line and team get to be good blocking the best case scenario for a play than have several different ways to block a play so i can just run that particular play. It makes more sense checking to another play. i do not run any bastardized version of either. i run true outside veer (reading the end man), preferable inside veer to the open side(reading the 5 tech), or loaded inside veer to the tight side(reading the 1st man outside the b-gap). Midline is my other read option play. Add trap, toss, g-belly (and option). lead option, and counter, you have my entire run offense.
I respect your opinion, thanks for sharing that with me. We all have to go with what we know, and what we are most comfortable coaching. Love the ISV to the open side, it is a great play! Being an option guy, do you not incorporate power series or iso's in your running game to compliment your options? I also like lead option to the open side, and run a predertermined pitch off that action and have the FB load on the 5 with the predertermined pitch going to the RB, of course. Where do you coach, what part of the country? What level of play? Always enjoy sharing opinions with other guys from around the country. We are not going to agree on everything, but that is not the point. Thanks for your reply. Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach, i did forget to include power-0. i like it better than Iso because we already have gap schemes with the counter, and inside, outside veer plays.
I coach in Illinois. We are a 5a team (8 classes) with 1200 students. We made it to the state semis and got beat by the state champion.
I figured you had probably forgotten the power series, most good option teams are always going to have that in their compliment package. Sounds like you had a good run this season! Congratulations! How did they beat you, just had better athletes, out execute you, or what? If it was close, it won't call for any major adjustment and changes in the off season, and that is always nice to avoid if you can.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Nicholson on Apr 1, 2007 17:17:19 GMT
When running ISV against a 43 what if DE plays QB which would give him a give read and Sam/Will jumps the dive?? In this case your QB gives b/c of his read on the DE but the dive back gets blown up by Sam/Will. What do you guys do in this situation?
We just teach the Q about Open Window and Closed. If they are running that scheme it is a pitch all the way. The Sam/Will can not scrape over top to get the Pitch so you can send your slot to the SS and you have your perimeter all blocked. I agree you have to block the Mike or he will behead your Q.