Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I had posted on this topic previously and had received numerous replys. I did my best to reply to each and every one that I received. However, have came across several email addresses that I do not recognize in my files. If you emailed at my personal email address in regards to this topic, and did not receive a reply, I humbly apologize and assure you it was not intentional. I got swamped and obviously have over looked some who were expecting replys. If you would post your name and email on the forum here, I will get back immediately to you as quickly as possible. Once again, my apology.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Tinglof on Dec 23, 2004 14:04:33 GMT
Coach,
I did not ask you previously, but I would like some info. on your point. I've installed the Airforce option attack in our wing-t system. We run ISV and midline option. I would like to hear more of your point principles. We use ride and decide for our FB mesh. We step our QB at 4 o'clock and 8 o'clock on ISV, FB aiming point to the poutside hip of the G. Any info. would be great.
Coaches, As an EX-QB and QB coach, IMO, there is no comparison to the two techniques. I rode the "ride and decide" for long years. Then, I found a new way that was run by Carson Newman called "the point technique" and I haven't looked back to this day and that was the fall of 1988! It is so much better than putting your arms back which is uncomfortable at best while keeping your head in the opposite direction to make your read. In the point, you take your escape step and drive DOWNHILL at your read. It is absolutely imperative that you get a downhill surge from your 0 line in order to be successful so that the QB can step right up into the very edge of the hole and sometimes actually right into it before transferring the ball, in any option, imo. I teach that the QB takes his deep step escape (6:00 not 4:00 or 8:00 to the backside) and GATHERS his front foot to his back foot and drives DOWNHILL directly at his read man. I THEN TELL THE QB/RB THE FOLLOWING: IF THE BALL IS STILL IN THE POINT POSITITION AT THE MESH, IT IS THE FB'S BALL, PERIOD!!! When I was first introduced to the technique all I could visualize was mass fumbles! THE EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE, WE REDUCED OUR FUMBLES AT THE MESH POINT BY ALMOST 100%!!! CONVERSELY, THE DIVE BACK MUST ALSO KNOW THAT IF THE BALL IS NOT THERE AND IS PULLED AT THE LAST SECOND, HE MUST NEVER REACH FOR THE BALL AS IT IS NO LONGER HIS!!! UNLESS THE FB RUNS CLEANLY THROUGH THE MESH AND CLOSES DOWN ON THE BALL IN HIS CRADLE, HE DOES NOT TOUCH THE FOOTBALL. The technique that I teach my QB's is very simple. As they drive off the gather step they hold the ball with two pressure points (both hands) directly in front of their numbers. On the inside veer it is a simple matter of escape step, gather, drive, and point the ball directly at his read. If it is there at the mesh, he simply releases the ball into the dive backs cradle and carries out his assigned fake. On the OSV, he will have to take that extra step or two because of the distance of his read (EMOLS) BUT HE MUST NEVER RUN PARALLEL TO THE LOS, HE MUST FOLLOW THAT DOWNHILL SURGE OF HIS LINE. If your line is just stalemateing and staying on the LOS, you will never have any success to speak of. Sure, even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then, but CONSISTENCY IS THE NAME OF THE GAME. IT IS WAY TO EASY TO BEND IT BACK (qb) IF HIS PATH GETS BUBBLED ON THE OSV AS HE IS NOW AWAY FROM HIS READ. THAT IS NOT WHERE YOU WANT HIM TO BE AS IT BECOMES VERY EASY FOR THE EMLOS TO GIVE HIM A FUZZY READ AND SCREW HIS HEAD UP. If his path becomes bubbled, he must be taught to escape the penetration but recover and drive right back DOWNHILL and not stay back from the LOS. I was the QB coach at a very successful High School program in 4-AAAA football in FLorida that ran the triple out of a base mix of bone and "I". We went 33-3 the first years I was there, going 10-0 in regular season play twice. We never went back to the ride and decide ever again. I have coached this tehnique for a long time, and I unequivocally state without hesitation that the point technique is far superior, IMO. I've have just told you all there is to it, nothing more to add except the reps with your QB and FB. YOU WILL BE SURPRISED HOW FAST THE KIDS ADAPT TO IT AND PREFER IT. The reason in my mind for the easy adaptation by the QB is it is so much easier than the other technique. Try it and see if you like it, is all I can offer.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Thanks for the very detailed information on the point technique. I have a couple of question for you:
1) With a fullback aligned behind the QB, do you have any difficulty with the QB not being being parallel with the FB's path, thus causing the FB and QB to collison some at the mesh?
2) Do you have a landmark for the FB, or is the football his landmark?
3) How deep is your FB's alignment? Is this a quick hitting play like Carson Newman?
4) This question doesn't have anything to do with the point technique, but do you scoop block on the backside. For example: You have a nose with a stacked MLB and the the backside guard is uncoverd. Do you have the center try and reach the MLB and have the the backside guard scoop the nose?
Thanks Coach. I really enjoy your information on the option game.
#1 question- no, because the FB is not running parallel to the los on either the ISV or OSV, he is running the "veer angle" if he is running it correctly. His eyes are focused on the football, with his aiming point being the brown spot of the PSG on the ISV and the outside hip of the PST on the OSV.
#3 question - his knuckles are at 4 yds off the ball, directly behind the QB #4 question - your BSG had better really be quick.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Nicholson on Jan 5, 2005 15:27:09 GMT
Coach Easton,
You said in your post above that if the ball is still in the point position at the mesh it is the Fullbacks ball period! I have a question about this. If your QB's dive read crashes down does he automatically pull the ball in? It seems to me that this would not sell your fake to the dive back as well as ride and decide would. Im wondering what you think about this? The way im picturing it in my head is that the point method would make it easier for the defense to see if the dive back actually gets the ball. Im thinking that ride and decide would do a better job of creating the illusion to the defense that the dive back has the ball when he really doesn't. Im just kind of thinking out loud here and would like your advice on this.
I'm not trying to sell you on the point method. You can only answer these type questions by actually doing it for yourself on the field. If you ever played QB you would appreciate it a lot more, Im sure. From a coaching stand point you just have to go with what you know, and what you are comfortable with. I can only share with you what I have learned from actual on field experience since 1988, when I was introduced to the technique. I'm merely sharing my point of view, not trying to convince anyone to use my technique. Just as any technique or scheme that you use, there has to be rules that are ironclad. That happens to be one of mine for this facet of the game. If I experienced those problems that you are suggesting to any degree, I would be foolish to continue to use the technique, agreed? YOU have to do it for yourself to experience the actual pluses and minuses of the system. In the 16 years I have used it, I have not found any reason whatsoever to change. Just my way, and the converts who have arrived at the same conclusions I did a long time ago.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I would also like to thank you for your descriptive reply. It is very informative and I will be taking a lok at this point tech. We have been a ride and decide, but I do agree that it is a little akward movement for the QB. Thanks again for the info.
Post by Coach Nicholson on Jan 6, 2005 8:50:52 GMT
Coach Easton,
I also appreciate the information you have provided on this topic. I guess I was just expressing my opinion in my last post except for the one question. When your QB sees his dive read crash down does he hold the ball out until just before the mesh to sell the fake or does he automatically pull the ball in and wait for the dive back to pass him? In other words at what point does the QB pull the ball in when deciding to keep it?
You have to think about how quickly the inside veer developes, it's just an instant for the QB to make his decision to give or to pull. If the QB sees the DT crash, he pulls it and gets out of there instantly and is on his way to the next read (DE). What good would it do for your QB to wait until the FB passes him? The defense knows that if the B gap is taken away, the ball won't be there anyway you slice it, see my point?
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Nicholson on Jan 6, 2005 9:13:28 GMT
I completely understand. I guess I just wasnt thinking about quickly the play develops and the fact that the fullback is by the QB in the blink of an eye. Which gives him only that split second to give or pull. At first while going through the play in my mind I was looking at it as if the QB had way more time to make a decision than he does in reality.
ADDED THOUGHT; UNLESS THE DT IN A 50 IS ALIGNED AS A 4i (automatic pull) or a 5 (automatic give) the QB must read a straight up 4 after the sanp, not in the PSL. Any DT who has played against the option (ISV) knows this and does his best to give the QB a fuzzy read. He will grab the OT and hold him with his thumbs up so as not to get a penalty, while reading the QB all the way. If the QB gives, he simply slides into the B gap and creams the FB! If he pulls, he is forced to pursue if he wants to be a factor in the outcome of the play. In the point, it is a flash point not having to disengage from the dive back as in the ride method. The QB can retract his point and make his escape MUCH FASTER.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Dublin Ireland on Jan 13, 2005 1:52:13 GMT
I'm just gonna throw my oar in here.
We installed Coach Easton's point method last season, with a lot of success. It proved to be effective and fast. But the most important point is that it contained less mechanics than the ride-and-decide method. Obviously there were landmarks and techniques to be acknowledged, but it allowed the QB (me!) to focus on these factors and on my read, rather than having to think about other mechanics. There's no mesh point, as such, which (I gather) requires endless reps to perfect - and it must be perfect. We don't get much training time over here, so anything that can cut down on mechanics without losing effectiveness is a very good thing. The simplicity of it makes it a lot easier to explain too.
We have a stud FB who is a great ballcarrier, but unfortunately not much of a thinker. When we first brought in the ISV, he couldn't get his head around the mesh, and we spent a couple of sessions running after fumbled balls. Then I turned up one day with the point method, and told him he'll either have the ball or he won't, simple as that. Straight off - from the very first rep - there were no fumbles, he ran his path with confidence and the ISV worked the way it was designed to - ie beautifully.
Thank you for that testamonial for the point method! Everyone has to make their own decision as to what is good for them and their players. I'm just so glad that I was introduced to this technique some 16 years ago now, and your post sounds as though you are too.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach Easton - I am interested in the Point the Ball method - If I understood your info on the footwork for inside veer the QB steps at 6 o'clock, gathers(we call it "Click") and then attacks downill at the dive key(4i,4,5,6i,6). Is this correct? Also how far does the QB extend his arms? Is it full extension like the mesh. We had trouble this year with the inside veer and have had mesh problems off and on with certain players. I think this would help our FB's to know whether they were getting the ball or not and eliminate the soft squeeze which some of our kids had trouble with. Would also allow them to hit the hole at full speed- which we coached but did not always get because of the player's worry about the mesh and ride.
ANSWER TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION: YES! ANSWER TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION: THE QB AFTER STEPPING ON HIS RELEASE GATHERS THE BALL WITH 2 PRESSURE POINTS TO HIS CHEST (ABOUT 2 INCHES IN FRONT ACTUALLY)AS HE STEPS TO THE LIP OF THE HOLE. IF THE DT IS IN A 4 HE MUST NOW READ HIM (4I =AUTOMATIC PULL 5= AUTOMATIC GIVE). AS THE QB REACHES THE MESH POINT, HE FLASH POINTS THE FOOTBALL DIRECTLY AT HIS READ. IF THE BALL IS STILL EXTEND(FULL EXTENSION OF THE BALL BY THE QB) WHEN THE FB MESHES IT IS HIS, PERIOD. IF IT IS A PULL, HE WILL FLASH POINT HIS FIRST READ AND PULL IT INSTANTLY AND GET UP FIELD TO HIS NEXT READ. VERY IMPORTANT COACHING POINT= YOUR FB MUST BE COACHED TO RUN TO THE EXTENDED FOOTBALL! THIS INSURES YOUR QB WITH ARMS FULLY EXTENDED WILL NOT BE HIT BY THE FB IN THE ELBOW AREA AND DROP THE BALL!!! GIVE IT A TRY, I REALLY THINK YOU WILL LIKE IT. IF YOU DON'T, NOTHING VENTURED, NOTHING GAINED.
SLS, THATS ALL I HAVE TO OFFER, THATS IT IN A NUTSHELL. I HAVE NOT BEEN TO CARSON NEWMAN IN QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW, BUT IF THEY RUN THE OPTION I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET THEY POINT IT, RATHER THAN RIDE IT. HOPE THIS HELPS Y'ALL.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
For all those interested in the "point the ball" method I would suggest getting this video. Ken Sparks- Carson-Newman: The Triple Option(split back veer)
Coach Sparks demo's the technique on-field with players.
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Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Now, have you used this technique out of any type of shotgun spread option? If not, do you think it is adaptable to this type of option? Just curious...
I'm going to throw my two cents in and also endorse Tiger One and the point method. Coach Easton was kind enough to let me call him at home towards the end of this past season and explain the point method to me. My team was having a horrible year with fumbling and we installed it with two games left and it worked very well for us. The first game was in a steady down pour and 38 degrees, and the second game was in a quagmire. No fumbles! As far as shotgun reads are concerned my qb's asked me to keep it the same, i.e. "ride and decide". I don't like teaching two different techniques, but they said each was easier in its own way. Thanks again Coach Easton.
JACKED UP - NO I HAVE NOT TRIED IT FROM THE GUN LOOK, ONLY FROM UNDER CENTER. I WOULD NOT BE QUALIFIED TO MAKE AN ASSESSEMENT ON THAT AT THIS TIME, PERHAPS LATER IN THE SPRING WE MAY GIVE IT A GO.
COACH EASTON
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE