Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Coach DeMeo has a book titled "Coaching the shotgun triple option." Has anyone read it? If so, is it different than the other Gun manuals like coach Campbell's? Is it worth buying?
I just purchased this via the Internet. I should be getting this within the week. I will let you know how the book is. The shotgun is the wave of the future.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
To answer the previous post-- buy the DeMeo book and video on the shotgun triple option. It is well worth it! Coach DeMeo explains everything in great detail.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Coach Cella, When you get a chance could you e-mail me because I wanted to ask you a question about the Tony Demeo Shotgun option videos. thanks, steve
I just finished reading Tony DeMeo's book on the Shotgun Triple Option. Is the blocking scheme he describes a type of zone scheme? Or is it a man scheme with a these-two-have-those-two adaptation? Or is it something completely different?
Shotgun Triple Coaches,
Is Coach DeMeo's scheme the one you use? Are other schemes feasible? Can you use a tackle iso scheme? A counter trey scheme? I am very new to the shotgun triple concept, so any help would be appreciated.
Coach The great thing about the shotgun triple is that you can run all sorts of schemes in front and read backside end. YOu can run Guard Trap, Iso, Counter Trey, Zone, Tackle Iso etc. Demeo's scheme is more of the 4 Hands on 4 eyes off method of zone/combo blocking. You double team the down linemen to get vertical movement and creat a bubble, the 4 eyes off comes in when one of the linemen sees backer coming off to his side he releases onto the backer and the other man overtakes. The most important thing is vertical movement on the double teams to get them 3 yards off the ball to prevent backer flow. It is an interesting concept. I personally don't use it because it takes a lot of reps to get the linemen good at it. I prefer man blocking schemes because I tend to have undersized OLinemen and I like to get them angles for their blocks. Check out the Gun Offense playbook if you haven't. I wrote a previous post on this topic in the forum in the flexbone option to gun option thread. I just noticed that it was responding to you so you read it and here is more information.
I found the two tapes by Demeo (Coaching the Shotgun Triple Option/Coaching the Counter Shotgun Option - $40 each) and the one by Petricca (The Utah Option Play - $29.95) and ordered them from Sellsports.com. I could not find the book by Demeo though. Where can I find it and order it?
KC, his theory on the triple is to double w/ the PG and PT, and only combo if necessary. Honestly, it's a combination of man and zone. I agree with Coach UC (I'm sure you have another name). My 160 pound linemen will struggle, and we try to straight double team as much as possible.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Coach LTC, I don't know if this is the Utah Option play for which you are looking. The date of that video is 1996, long before Urban Meyer made his way to Salt Lake City. Are you sure this is the video you want?
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Your posts have been very helpful to me. I appreciate it. The more I investigate the shotgun option principles, the more convinced I become to make it part of our package. The cons, for us, would be 1. time constraints and 2. my lack of experience in the offense.
Can we execute the flexbone as well as we do now, if we add shotgun? In each practice, we have a 60 minute offensive period in the summer and a 45 minute period in-season. Can we get it all done? Can our Jimmy's and Joe's learn and execute ALL of our X's and O's? Our kids are good at the flexbone and its multiple options. Should we even mess with it?
If we install the shotgun triple, I do not have any experience in game planning or game day adjustments within this offense. Would I be doing our kids a disservice by installing an offense that I am not completely familiar with?
Just thinking out loud, fellas.
Coach Cella,
I agree with you and UC. If I had to make the call right now, I think I would go with a tackle iso scheme. I've got Northwestern's playbook from when they started using the spread shotgun with only the QB decide play (no triple). They use that scheme. What I like about it is that if you have a blocking angle, then you are one-on-one. If not, then you get help and work a combo to a LB.
Coach Cella, first thanks for the reference for the book.
Good point on the date of the other tape. I already ordered it anyway. It'll be another reference for the option in my library.
Has anyone looked at Demeo's other tapes on the option from under center. Are they a good cross-reference to his gun tapes. We used to run the triple out of spread and spent a lot of time down at Navy. We ran some gun at that time, but now the gun is our base. I've been intrigued with running the triple out of the gun for a while. Question is if you're comfortable with what you've been doing with the triple under center, are the other Demeo tapes worth getting to complete the package? Are the rules and teaching progression going to essentially be the same?
The shovel pass goes back to a long time head coach that coached at Univ. of Utah years ago and the play was called "Utah Pass" The crazy option has been run for some time, just that Urban Meyer has made a living on it and he just happened to be at Utah doing it.
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I've been reviewing the Fiesta Bowl and saw that on Utah's "crazy option" that it looks like the shuttle back eyeballs the pulling guard as a reference to his track. He seems to fit up on his outside hip. This makes a lot of sense and another reason why you would pull the backside guard. Otherwise the track would be more difficult to determine. Is this correct?
I too noticed the track of the BSG and shovel pass reciever on the "crazy option". My question on it is does the QB have a 2-way go? Could he pitch the ball to the other HB if the DE crashed down and took away the shovel?
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KC361 you asked if you could still execute the Flexbone. I'm not sure. I have abandoned the Flexbone in favoer of all shotgun option because I believe that the read is easier and it gives us the best chance to succeed. I have stated before that I feel that it takes less time to teach the reads on shotgun option. To do traditional Veer out of flexbone, plus midline, plus the gun stuff is a lot of reads and will take a significant part of practice time. I went to the gun because I can combine my Option and base run periods because they are now one in the same. The read in gun is easier so you could do it and just spend the bulk of your time on your regular option game reads.
kc361 fire away, leave your email if you want and I can get to you that way or just leave questions on the board and I will respond whenever I see them.
We have had a lot of success with the flexbone the last three years. What I'd like to do is construct a system that is versatile enough to adapt to the personnel we may get. How is the personnel needed in the flexbone different than that of the personnel in the shotgun triple offense?
Aside from the gun triple and flip option, what other shotgun plays do you run? Do you have a predetermined give to the RB or motion back? Do you have a predetermined keep by the QB? How do you block them?
What is your play action game like? Is it similar to the flexbone stuff?
What type of fronts, coverages and blitzes do you see?
What is your 4-minute offense like?
What is your Short Yardage and Goal line package like?
When, if ever, do you get the QB under center?
You can e-mail me at wcurrie@pointpleasant.k12.nj.us or post it here, whatever is good for you.
Coaches (UC bears and KC361) I am very interested in getting some more information from you guys. KC361 we have responded to each other a few times on the forum. Our packages sound very similar. UCbears I am also thinking of adding gun option into our scheme so I am very interested in this discussion. We only ran speed last year and OSV. I would like to get more into option. My primary package is the jet series. But if I can solidify the a good option package we will be tough to stop.
Coach trying to learn more about the Gun opiton moved to Az. from York Pa. in June offenses are a lot more spreed out it seems here in the west.
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