Post by govertical on Dec 25, 2004 3:07:47 GMT
This post is in response to Groundchuck:
Groundchuck -
By far, our most effective running plays out of the spread have been the zone stretch and the tackle lead or tackle trap. The Lower kid you asked about (who is playing LB down at Illinois as a walk-on) probably got 1/2 of the 1600 yards he rushed for his senior year on the zone stretch play. We had another kid pick up about 1500 yards this year running the same offense.
Our 5-wide shotgun formation is called Casper (no backs in the backfield, like "ghosts"-ha, ha!) Our TE (Y) is flexed about 5-7 yards from the right tackle. Our Z usually is on the numbers on the Y side. X is the receiver opposite the Y (again on the numbers). Then, we have two slot receivers/RBs called R and T who line up about two yards off of the LOS on the hashes. R lines up on the Y side, T on the X side. That is our Casper formation. Here's the above two plays (zone stretch and tackle trap).
1. Zone Stretch: In the huddle, the QB would call "T Waggle, 708 Stretch" or "R Waggle 727 Stretch". (In our offense, the T is the 0 back, the R is the 2 back and the QB is the 1 back.) The QB will put R or T in a waggle motion back toward him (slow, arcing motion back to QB). On the snap, the QB will "ride" the back by placing the ball in the back's belly and holding it there as the back runs by. At the last second, the QB releases the ball and then fakes in the opposite direction the back is going. The O-Line executes a zone block to the playside (rules - if covered, block man. If uncovered, block down to the next defensive player on the LOS). Recievers to play side either crack or stalk depending on the blocking scheme. We teach our back to run to the hash before making his cut upfield. Common problem that younger kids will make when running this play is that they will want to cut too soon and make this an off-tackle play. Make sure that the back gets outside of the hash before he makes his cut. Chances are good that if the back cuts up before he gets to the hash, he will be tackled by an LB. If the back can get to the hash and get his shoulders turned upfield, it is him against the free safety if the receivers do their jobs.
2. Tackle Trap or Tackle Lead: This play is the counter to the zone stretch. After you have run the stretch a few times effectively, the defense will start to jump the waggle motion. As soon as the LBs recognize the waggle motion coming in, they will start to overpursue by running as fast as they can to get out in front of the O-line zone block or the receiver crack blocks. In the huddle, the QB will call either "T Waggle 715 Tackle Trap/Lead" or "R Waggle 716 Tackle Trap/Lead". In this play, the QB will do everything that he does in the zone stretch play. The difference is that the QB will keep the ball after "riding" the incoming back and then take the ball through the off-tackle hole from the side that the motion came from. (In other words, if the T motions in from the left, the QB will run off-tackle to the left. If the R motion in from the right, the QB will run off-tackle to the right.) The other thing that changes is the line blocking. Rather than zone blocking this play, we will pull the backside tackle and he will either trap the Defensive End (Tackle Trap) or lead through the hole (Tackle Lead). The Tackle Lead play is very effective when you are playing against an overly aggressive DE who wants to run upfield. When we run the Tackle Lead, we tell our playside tackle to sell pass to get the DE running upfield. As the DE runs upfield, the playside tackle simply executes his pass-pro technique and drives the DE upfield. As the DE is taking himself out of the play by running upfield, the backside tackle, who is pulling, gets to the offtackle hole and leads the way through it. We teach the tackle to look inside first as he crosses the LOS. The QB then follows the tackle trough the hole.
After you establish these two base plays, the sky is the limit to what you can do. Out of this offense, we run counters, screen passes, QB traps to the 1 and 2 holes, shovel passes, you name it! Essentially, this offense is a spread version of the old Double Wing. Pretty much, any play that you run out of the Double Wing can be run out of this formation. In fact, we run the above plays out of a 4-receiver set. The QB is in shotgun with the back standing next to him, we have two WRs and two slot receivers/RBs. Nothing more than the Double Wing except that the QB is in shotgun.
I hope this helps and I hope even more that I have not insulted your intelligence!
Groundchuck -
By far, our most effective running plays out of the spread have been the zone stretch and the tackle lead or tackle trap. The Lower kid you asked about (who is playing LB down at Illinois as a walk-on) probably got 1/2 of the 1600 yards he rushed for his senior year on the zone stretch play. We had another kid pick up about 1500 yards this year running the same offense.
Our 5-wide shotgun formation is called Casper (no backs in the backfield, like "ghosts"-ha, ha!) Our TE (Y) is flexed about 5-7 yards from the right tackle. Our Z usually is on the numbers on the Y side. X is the receiver opposite the Y (again on the numbers). Then, we have two slot receivers/RBs called R and T who line up about two yards off of the LOS on the hashes. R lines up on the Y side, T on the X side. That is our Casper formation. Here's the above two plays (zone stretch and tackle trap).
1. Zone Stretch: In the huddle, the QB would call "T Waggle, 708 Stretch" or "R Waggle 727 Stretch". (In our offense, the T is the 0 back, the R is the 2 back and the QB is the 1 back.) The QB will put R or T in a waggle motion back toward him (slow, arcing motion back to QB). On the snap, the QB will "ride" the back by placing the ball in the back's belly and holding it there as the back runs by. At the last second, the QB releases the ball and then fakes in the opposite direction the back is going. The O-Line executes a zone block to the playside (rules - if covered, block man. If uncovered, block down to the next defensive player on the LOS). Recievers to play side either crack or stalk depending on the blocking scheme. We teach our back to run to the hash before making his cut upfield. Common problem that younger kids will make when running this play is that they will want to cut too soon and make this an off-tackle play. Make sure that the back gets outside of the hash before he makes his cut. Chances are good that if the back cuts up before he gets to the hash, he will be tackled by an LB. If the back can get to the hash and get his shoulders turned upfield, it is him against the free safety if the receivers do their jobs.
2. Tackle Trap or Tackle Lead: This play is the counter to the zone stretch. After you have run the stretch a few times effectively, the defense will start to jump the waggle motion. As soon as the LBs recognize the waggle motion coming in, they will start to overpursue by running as fast as they can to get out in front of the O-line zone block or the receiver crack blocks. In the huddle, the QB will call either "T Waggle 715 Tackle Trap/Lead" or "R Waggle 716 Tackle Trap/Lead". In this play, the QB will do everything that he does in the zone stretch play. The difference is that the QB will keep the ball after "riding" the incoming back and then take the ball through the off-tackle hole from the side that the motion came from. (In other words, if the T motions in from the left, the QB will run off-tackle to the left. If the R motion in from the right, the QB will run off-tackle to the right.) The other thing that changes is the line blocking. Rather than zone blocking this play, we will pull the backside tackle and he will either trap the Defensive End (Tackle Trap) or lead through the hole (Tackle Lead). The Tackle Lead play is very effective when you are playing against an overly aggressive DE who wants to run upfield. When we run the Tackle Lead, we tell our playside tackle to sell pass to get the DE running upfield. As the DE runs upfield, the playside tackle simply executes his pass-pro technique and drives the DE upfield. As the DE is taking himself out of the play by running upfield, the backside tackle, who is pulling, gets to the offtackle hole and leads the way through it. We teach the tackle to look inside first as he crosses the LOS. The QB then follows the tackle trough the hole.
After you establish these two base plays, the sky is the limit to what you can do. Out of this offense, we run counters, screen passes, QB traps to the 1 and 2 holes, shovel passes, you name it! Essentially, this offense is a spread version of the old Double Wing. Pretty much, any play that you run out of the Double Wing can be run out of this formation. In fact, we run the above plays out of a 4-receiver set. The QB is in shotgun with the back standing next to him, we have two WRs and two slot receivers/RBs. Nothing more than the Double Wing except that the QB is in shotgun.
I hope this helps and I hope even more that I have not insulted your intelligence!