Inside Veer to the Open End with a 4i technique?

IT IS NO LONGER AN OPTION IF YOU DON'T READ IT, IT THEN BECOMES A PREDETERMINED PITCH OR KEEP BY THE QB. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MAKES IT AN OPTION, READ YOUR KEY AND REACT TO HIS ACTION.
BUT, IF HE IS IN A 4I, IT WOULD BECOME AN AUTOMATIC PULL IF YOUR RUNNING THE ISV JUST AS ON THE STRONG SIDE, AND THIS IS DETERMINED IN THE PSL SO IN THAT SENSE IT NOW BECOMES A PREDERTERMINED PLAY NOT TO GIVE.

COACH EASTON

COACH EASTON

Coaches,

I know for the most part the 4i is B gap responsible, so there wouldn't be a FB give, but if the 4i stands his ground or goes up field or back pedals(never happens?)wouldn't it be a give to the FB?

We would loop that tech. with our tackle and still have the QB read it. I do go over that alignment with our QB's and tell them it will most likely be a fake to the FB and look to keep or pitch off next defender. Like I said, I know he is right there on pre-snap alignment(4i), just wondering if I should be doing or telling our kids different?

Thanks for the info.

Thanks Coach E, I appreciate your quick response. I have thought about the load. We have never fully run it though?

Our offense is wing-t. We have really concentrated alot on triple and midline in the last few seasons. In our option series we run triple option and midline option. In our other series we have FB Down option(TE side) and Belly option(open side), both are double options with no FB read. Do you suggest running one of those vs. a 4i?

Thanks for your replies.

The belly option in our wing-t system is to the open/weakside and has the FB take a short lateral step, plant deep in the backfield and fake to the B gap- the QB reverses out fakes to FB and runs a double option with the backside slot/wingback in motion. The line to the playside has the option to reach block or PSTackle block down on the DT and the guard logs the DE.

The down option for us is to the TE/wingback strongside. The FB dives for the outside hip of the PST and fakes- QB reverses and fakes to FB, double option with the halfback/slotback running as pitch man. PSG pulls and logs the 1 st outside the TE's block. PST and TE block down.

Brief description, but these are the two double options we run. Belly and Down option.

Coach Easton,

As I read more and more post and saw more plays on the OSV as I started coaching in the wing-t, I noticed that it was very similar also. I ran just traditional wing-t to start and have added the isv and midline in the last few seasons and learning more about different options and I do find the Down option to be similar to the OSV. I coached in the "I" offense before changing to wing-t and we only ran isv triple option and load option with the Fb leading.

This site has definitely peeked my interest in more option added to my wing-t scheme.

Thanks

Coach Tinglof - I have seen some wing - t schemes that left the DE unblocked and pitched off of him on the Belly option, I think they had the tackle down on the 4i, guard around for the alley player, TB(psHB) on the PSLB and the FB faking to the FS level. We are looking at a way to attack the open side when we get reduction - we would run inside veer if we saw a 3 technique but a 4i would be automatic pull. Our problem is 50 fronts that don't reduce on the open side. They make the inside veer weak always be a pitch. DE has QB and DT has FB, Secondary rolls to pitch along with LB flow. We are looking at more midline and Belly(down).

What about changing play to outside veer? That's what we do.Guard and tackle get push on 4i to LB.Read next defender for dive
.It was our best play this year. Also,step Offensive tackle around 4i for scraping LB,and read 4i.

we have all three ways in our package.

1) we'll read it

2) we'll block it

and 3 we'll give the ball to our fb.

1 and 2 depend what triple scheme we're in. although i like to start off reading it. you must have a) a way to help your qb out if he has a problem and b) if your fb is your best runner - keep him in the game.