Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Coaches, We are a multiple 8-man front scheme. We play with a 3-tech and a shaded nose inside. We are discussing switching our nose to a 2i as a base technique. Any thoughts on the benefits of one versus the other? Our original thought process was that most people place their "weakest" o-lineman at center, so we wanted to cover him up. Now we're kind of thinking that we shouldn't waste a player over a poor lineman. We think the alignment over the guard will help protect our ILB a little better.
I don't know when exactly this concept of putting your weakest lineman at center came into being, I know it does exist, but to me it is the dumbest thing you can do! If you have a guy who can handle a shaded nose all by himself at center, it makes it no longer necessary to utilize a guard to help finish the job in combo! If you come up against a DT on the backside who can really play, you had better have a strong and quick guy at center who can get the choke on him before he is in your backfield. Bob Lilly could be in your backfield before you could get the ball to the QB under center, literally, and if you didn't have a center who could handle a big tough DT on the choke, you were in for a long night against the Cowboys! I fully realize what your saying about changing up to a 2i, as the D linemans MAIN job is to keep the offensive line off of your LB's so they can make the tackles, certainly. But, I take a reverse approach and think of how much more advantageous it becomes to have a nose who can whip a weak center almost every play and have him in your backfield before you can say Jack Robinson, screwing up your play! See my point of view?
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I agree 100% with coach Easton - we have covered the center even when we ran a 6-2 front(1shade, 3 shade) If you play an outside shade it makes the tackle(3 tech) and Nose(1tech) interchangeable and gives you added depth. Any inisde shade has a completely different set of keys and reactions. We have played some inside shade with our tackles in the 5-3 but have decided to play outside shades to make our reads easier. As far as the abilities of the center I have seen it done both ways but I know that things go much better when you have a good one.
Our problem this season was that our nose never commanded a double.... at this point we're still searching for a kid at that position.... Just trying to see if we can make up for our personnel weakness with scheme - I know that that's not often possible, but it is in some situations.... We were just thinking that this might be one of those... However, you both make some solid points - I appreciate your response!
Quote Any inisde shade has a completely different set of keys and reactions.
Can you be more specific in the differences between an inside or outside shade. Do you mean that the shade will primarily key the C whereas the 2i would key the G or are there fundamental differences in the techniques they play?
Would R or L handed stance be a factor? I coach younger kids and don't like to try and force them to change their natural stronger side. So if a kid with a R handed stance lines up on the R of the line- should he be a 2i so that he has his shaded hand on the ground and shaded foot back? I play an under front so that my shaded nose is usually on the L of the line and can play his R handed stance. My 3 tech to the weakside is also R handed but I feel I can adjust his footwork as the distance between him and his key is bigger.
I love these types of discussion as folks in Scotland may speak about 3techs,shades, and 2i's but we don't really know the theory behind these techniques.
When we have our players shade an offensive lineman, we tell the defender that his foot splits the offensive man's body. If I am the left DT and I am in a 2I, my left foot will be between the OG's feet. If I am a 3 techinque, my right foot will be between the OG's feet. Depending how good your linemen are, you can play with this concept. Some college coaches teach different degrees of shading (tight 2I has outside foot on or just inside OG's foot). We just think it's easier to use feet as alignment landmarks.
A player playing an inside shade places his outside foot back and power steps with that foot on the snap of the ball. We do this so that he has some power to defend against the down block. If we find that a player can not step with the back foot (right-handed kid playing on left side of defense), we will allow him to step with his front foot, but we slightly change his alignment. We will back him off the ball and tell him to take 2 steps with first step being a short power-step. Because he's off the ball; he'll end up at the same place with his feet in the same postiion, but he'll take an additional step.
Cover the center! If you dont you may allow a lesser player to be more effective than he should be. If he is a good player - you neutralize him by making him snap and block. Good centers will be able to snap and take the appropriate step to execute the assigned block - thus eliminating the natural disadvantage of snapping the ball first. Especially on passing situations, a defender on the snap hand with a quick get off can cause protection problems.
We are a base 53 team. Last year we played our nose in what we call a 1 tech, inside shade on the strong G. He wasnt able to command a double team from that spot and our opponents were able to get their C to our MLB. This year we moved our base alignment to Strong A gap and just told him to "blow it up." He commanded a double team constantly and left our MLB to run to the ball. Most teams ended up giving us a double TE look to counter it, which nearly eliminated their ability to pass.
Our base defense last season was a pro 4-3 under front (SAM on LOS vs. TE in a tight 9)
Since we had 1 stud d lineman, we played the SAM in a 9, SDE in a 4 (with primary responsibility C gap), either a 2i (we called it a 1), gap, or strong shade DT, a backside 2 tech DT, and a 5 tech DE.
We changed up the strongside DT aignment based on the personnel match-up that week, with the intent of forcing a Double team to allow our Mike (Head up on Guard) to free flow.
Often times we would make a preliminary judgement as to the best mismatch via film and scouting, but we always tested each alignment early in the game. In the case of either the 2i or a strong shade the assignment was the same - drive into and control the lineman, anchor the A gap. Hands had to be on the blocker to keep him off the LB. If the O - linemen were equal, we would align based upon strong vs. weak run tendency.
[Once in a while we would let the strong DT stem / shift alignment, just to continually mess with the mental processing of the Olinemen, especially if we got a bead on the count.]
Strong tendency, DT in a 2i, Weak tendency/balanced, then shade. Again the object is to keep the MLB clean to run. IN essence, the DT's assignment is to block the blockers.
In passing situations / or to change up we would have the DT(s) just line up and blow the A gap.
If our weakside DT matched up OK, we would keep him in a 2 tech, with dual gap responsibilities - he usually outweighed the opposition by 75-100 lbs, so he ate up a lot of space. He helped to screen our Will, who we lined up on the inside shoulder of the OT.
Our strong side 4 tech just locked down the strongside off tackle hole, plus could also 2 gap into the B gap.
Our 9 tech's job was to jam the TE to flatten inside on every play - to keep him off the 4 tech.
To go to a 5-3 look out of this we would invert the SS from a 2 safety shell. He was coming downhill at the snap, after cheating up a couple steps between his traditional level and LB level.
Post by Coach Campbell on Mar 16, 2005 18:47:55 GMT
Thhe weakest lineman at center was a concept long since gone by, this was why Bud Wilkinson designed the 50 defense because the center back in the 50's and 60's was supposedly the weakest. Our best and smartest lineman will play center. Coach CAmpbell
We run a 4-3 and our base is a 1 & 3 technique. 3 is the more physical guy, 1 being the quicker smaller guy. for the most part they read the G's in our front. We attempt to 2 gap if we can. Anyway, if we have a smart and quick NT, I will allow him to line up where he wants. I want him to confuse the hell out of the OL. Even in our base, he can be a 2, a 1 (your 2i), in the gap, shade C or on C - as long as he can fulfill his responsibility. Now I normally dont give him this leeway until midway through season. The advantages are that our base can have 'multiple looks. We also stem - so that an option team trying to call plays at the line have trouble. another thing is that we have our 1 & 3 learn each other's positions. So if the QB is actually looking for the jersey# of a kid, he could make a mistake on his call in the case of the option.
We run a 4-3 and our base is a 1 & 3 technique. 3 is the more physical guy, 1 being the quicker smaller guy. for the most part they read the G's in our front. We attempt to 2 gap if we can. Anyway, if we have a smart and quick NT, I will allow him to line up where he wants. I want him to confuse the hell out of the OL. Even in our base, he can be a 2, a 1 (your 2i), in the gap, shade C or on C - as long as he can fulfill his responsibility. Now I normally dont give him this leeway until midway through season. The advantages are that our base can have 'multiple looks. We also stem - so that an option team trying to call plays at the line have trouble. another thing is that we have our 1 & 3 learn each other's positions. So if the QB is actually looking for the jersey# of a kid, he could make a mistake on his call in the case of the option.