Post by Buckeye75 on Jan 19, 2005 17:30:19 GMT
I have often heard people on this forum, as well as other other sites (t-mag, elite) talk highly of Joe Kenn's Tier System. I bought the book last summer, and I really learned alot from it, but I still have some questions concerning it's set up.
Many people say that the Tier System is more geared toward athletes and would be a better choice than a traditional Westside set up, but I don't see anyone giving a reason for this type of statement. The only thing that I have been able to figure out is that it cuts down on the amount of CNS intensive days for an athlete that is also involved in running. Is this the only reason, or are there other reasons why this may be a better choice than the
4-day split/3 day Westside split over 10 days?
In the book it seems like Kenn leaves out any type of tricep work for the upper body tiers, filling them with either a horizontal press, vertical press, or row. On Elite Coach H says that you can do tricep work as a "sub-tier" on bench days. Does this mean that the main session just has 6 sessions now instead of 5? Does anyone have any ideas on how to fit various tricep exercises into the template? (ex: close grip board press, cg bench, rack lockouts, skulls etc.)
By the same token, what about upper back work and stuff like db cleans and face pulls?
My last questions concerns the number of exercises in the session. In the basic 3x5 template there are 5 main exercises along with the pc tier to give 6 exercises per session. The total number of sets comes out close to around 24 sets. The guys over at elite often say how often the drug free athlete overtrains, and that 5 exercises should be the maximum for any type of lifter. Obviously Kenn has a good reason for this as a he is one of the permeir strength coaches in the country but i'm just trying to get other ideas on this.
Thanks for the the help guys.
Many people say that the Tier System is more geared toward athletes and would be a better choice than a traditional Westside set up, but I don't see anyone giving a reason for this type of statement. The only thing that I have been able to figure out is that it cuts down on the amount of CNS intensive days for an athlete that is also involved in running. Is this the only reason, or are there other reasons why this may be a better choice than the
4-day split/3 day Westside split over 10 days?
In the book it seems like Kenn leaves out any type of tricep work for the upper body tiers, filling them with either a horizontal press, vertical press, or row. On Elite Coach H says that you can do tricep work as a "sub-tier" on bench days. Does this mean that the main session just has 6 sessions now instead of 5? Does anyone have any ideas on how to fit various tricep exercises into the template? (ex: close grip board press, cg bench, rack lockouts, skulls etc.)
By the same token, what about upper back work and stuff like db cleans and face pulls?
My last questions concerns the number of exercises in the session. In the basic 3x5 template there are 5 main exercises along with the pc tier to give 6 exercises per session. The total number of sets comes out close to around 24 sets. The guys over at elite often say how often the drug free athlete overtrains, and that 5 exercises should be the maximum for any type of lifter. Obviously Kenn has a good reason for this as a he is one of the permeir strength coaches in the country but i'm just trying to get other ideas on this.
Thanks for the the help guys.